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The Signpost should write about...

Did you know that AI chatbots like ChatGPT and Claude believe that Simple Wikipedia is a reliable source? And that the community is much smaller which makes it far easier to fly under the radar if you are being naughty? Talk:Antisemitism_on_Wikipedia#WTF and simple:User:Polygnotus/tmp.

Polygnotus (talk) 18:49, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of just posting two wikilinks, maybe you could tell us right here what your suggestion is. ☆ Bri (talk) 00:41, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bri The fact that it is pretty easy to feed AI misinformation because they consider simple.wikipedia.org a reliable source and there is far less oversight over here than there is here. Polygnotus (talk) 05:41, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost should write about... How Wikipedia Whitewashes Mao: The Anatomy of Ideological Capture, a Substack post about bias in the Legacy section of the article Mao Zedong. This comment at Talk:Mao Zedong § "Legacy" section alludes to some context about the author which I'm not aware of: "Obviously the article comes from a past critic of Wikipedia..." Ham II (talk) 05:56, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe another editor will disagree, but I think it's going to be hard to address criticism from a pseudonymous, non notable Substack account. ☆ Bri (talk) 14:30, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tracegrains is a well-known guy on the computer, I think. jp×g🗯️ 12:23, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

•  Done We did cover this in the corresponding issue. jp×g🗯️ 22:28, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Which was Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2025-08-09/In the media. jp×g🗯️ 23:13, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost should write about...

Like many libraries, The New York Public Library has a site for digitized material. And like many libraries, each digitized item comes with templates for citing the item based on various citation styles (MLA, APA, Chicago/Turabian). But where The New York Public Library is different is that they also provide wikitext in case you want to post to Wikipedia (or other Wikimedia projects). See the example on their website:: Original order suspending the writ of habeas corpus between New York and Washington. Signed by Abraham Lincoln.Countersigned by William Henry Seward

kosboot (talk) 17:19, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Caesar DePaço, apparently there is a "en-WP article content was removed by court-order" case again. Wikipedia:Village_pump_(WMF)#Office_action:_Removals_on_the_article_Caesar_DePaço Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:33, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I put in a very brief note at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/News and notes as we are up against our publishing deadline. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:36, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Done in Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2025-08-09/News and notes. jp×g🗯️ 23:13, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost should write about... I finally finished User:Ixtal/Analysis on administrators' activity. I recall some time ago talking about sharing it through the Signpost, but it's been a while since then so I'm not aware of the current stance on it in the newsroom. — ♠ Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Non nobis solum ♠ 13:59, 9 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost should write about WP:BIAS specifically with reference to WP:NOTNEWS and WP:NEVENT. Recently a page on an event which happened days before in the USA was !kept at AfD on the basis of IAR and an accident that killed more than 30 in Pakistan was !deleted on the basis of NOTNEWS and NEVENT. It is clear that "news events" are not being consistently !kept or !deleted at AfD and this leads to long-standing BIAS.

JMWt (talk) 13:54, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This sounds like an op-ed that would be written by someone with strong interest in the topic. Are you interested in doing one? ☆ Bri (talk) 15:25, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

well I'm heavily biased and invested in the issue, I'm not sure I can write a balanced dispassionate piece. I can tell people what I think and why, I'm not sure I can do anything more than that JMWt (talk) 15:30, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Op-eds don't have to be objective or dispassionate. It's in the title: opinion/editorial. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:22, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'll think about it. JMWt (talk) 17:26, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost should write about... the sharp rise in identified AI-generated content in August 2025, much of which has been undetected since 2023-2024, and the increased attention to combating it.

• This has been in national news recently, e.g., the Washington Post, The Verge, Yahoo, et cetera.
• Much of this is spearheaded by the AI Cleanup WikiProject, which publishes an extensive list of common and less frequently remarked upon signs of AI text. WP:ANI has also had several related cases in the past week.
• The problem goes deeper than previously thought; around 600 instances of writing suspected to be LLM generated have been identified in around two weeks, on articles as high profile as Celebrity, Fashion, Foreign language, Culture of Mexico, History of Nigeria, Protest song, and Women's sports.
• A new speedy deletion criteria was just adopted for unambiguous AI generated content, which has also been reported by the media.
• English Wikipedia and the WMF have been somewhat at odds over this, as evidenced by the foundation's new AI strategy and its repercussions in things like the backlash against a project to show AI summaries to users. This also comes at the beginning of the new college semester, coinciding with new guidance to students in the WikiEdu program about responsible AI use.

Disclaimer: I am involved in this WikiProject and most of the efforts above. But given the mainstream media attention and the number of developments in the past two weeks alone, it feels important to cover. Gnomingstuff (talk) 15:20, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost should write about Boing Boing's article on Wikipedia and AI, "Wikipedia publishes list of AI writing tells".

—Bruce1ee^talk 09:03, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Seems that we did not actually do this, my apologies. Scheduled for this issue which will come out at a link here when it exists: .  Done jp×g🗯️ 23:22, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like big news The Hill. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:50, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be blunt, I'm kind of surprised to see no response here. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:07, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: 'twas scheduled (and ran) Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2025-09-09/In the media, although I guess nobody (least of all me) thought to go glean this and the rest from the suggestions page, or else forgot to follow up after doing so. My apologies! jp×g🗯️ 23:19, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose that means this is  Done, for the bot. jp×g🗯️ 23:20, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost should write about... Wikipedia:Signs of AI writing has some press-coverage, as can be seen in the press-template on the talkpage.

And then there is Wikipedia:Village_pump_(WMF)#Wikipedia_under_US_House_of_Reps_Oversight_Committee, but I'm fairly sure you guys noticed that one anyway. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:17, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost should write about Caesar DePaço's intention to sue some of the editors responsible for adding content to the page on DePaço. According to him, "the information, although limited, was sufficient to proceed with identification" of the Wikipedians.

Inter-rede (talk) 03:27, 2 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Done In Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2025-08-09/News and notes and subsequent, thank youf or the suggestion. jp×g🗯️ 23:27, 19 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• https://www.theverge.com/cs/features/717322/wikipedia-attacks-neutrality-history-jimmy-wales

--Another Believer _(Talk) 18:24, 4 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's long but worth reading. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:37, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also mentioned in the Cory Doctorow piece I just suggested below. Funcrunch (talk) 18:55, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

According to Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts (IP masking), that thing is supposed to deploy this month. Wikipedians might voice opinions. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:37, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We covered this in the last issue and there's a mention of the new (October 21) deadline in the draft News and notes in the upcoming issue. Thanks! ☆ Bri (talk) 03:09, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

New article just published by Cory Doctorow on "Why Wikipedia Works". Among other things, highlights the importance of "Verifiability, not truth". Funcrunch (talk) 18:54, 5 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost should write about the fact that the number of edits made by users blocked for inappropriate use of LLMs is doubling every 100 days.

Data source: Quarry. I suggest that this trend is not sustainable. TestUser345 (talk) 18:33, 6 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have a soft spot for graphs to communicate numerical data, so – included in the draft for the upcoming News and notes. Thanks! ☆ Bri (talk) 03:08, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Logarithmic graphs are generally confusing; this graph especially so because it mixes linear and logarithmic scales. -- Beland (talk) 21:43, 9 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Quite true. If you can suggest improvements I will try my best. TestUser345 (talk) 07:56, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The doubling number is highly contingent on that 2022-05 datapoint. Remove it and you'd have double blocks/edits every much shorter periods of time. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:55, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure tampering with data is a good solution. My suggestion would simply be to use a linear scale on both sides. If you want to show doubling time, use a curved line. Or don't, and just let the data speak for itself. -- Beland (talk) 13:58, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not talking about data manipulation, I'm talking that doubling time is highly dependant on an outlier. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:32, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I interpreted "remove it" as a suggestion. -- Beland (talk) 20:43, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I added 95% confidence intervals to the doubling times, which I feel still gets across the message that even though the number of accounts blocked doesn't seem to be increasing that quickly, the amount of edits they're making are. That was the original reason for mixing linear and semilog plots. Still interested in suggestions on how to make that main idea more obvious. TestUser345 (talk) 21:56, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I feels there's two phases to that graph. Prior to circa 2025 and post 2025. There's been a lot of policy refinements from 2023+ and editors are also much more aware of the AI issue, twinkle and tools like my own WP:UPDS have been adapted to deal with LLMs and AI editors. Prior to 2025, the block count is effectively flat, always on the order of ~2-3/month, and then within a few months, you've skyrocketed to 15+/month. I also feel there's missing data in that graph. While I'm willing to believe there's be zero blocks for AI editing for large periods of time, I highly doubt there's been under 10 AI edits in the entirety of 2022-05 to 2023-05, all happening in 2022-05.

All in all, linear/semilog regressions really don't seem to apply all that well to the data. Hence why you have such large confidence intervals (504 ± 348, 100 &\pm; 40) in the doubling rates. The data does clearly show an increase though. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:28, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost should write about... Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) sent a letter to the nonprofit operator of Wikipedia alleging a pattern of liberal bias in articles on the collaborative encyclopedia. [1] Hawkeye7 (discuss) 02:01, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! We have a start on this and related matters in the draft In the media. ☆ Bri (talk) 02:03, 8 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I am a bit late to notice this and to think of bringing this here, but The Signpost should write about the percentage of articles classified as WP:Good articles has reached 0.6%. Nice little good news story. I mentioned this at Wikipedia talk:Good article nominations#0.6% of all articles are now Good articles where others provided a bit of further commentary. I would ask that any maths I attempted is redone however. CMD (talk) 14:17, 11 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]