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The state library of kansas has started includeing a selection of wikipedia articles in their catalogue. See here for the catalogue in action and this blog post for further details.©Geni 13:28, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
More information has been released concerning the forthcoming BBC Radio 4 comedy series Bigipedia.
Bigipedia Ep 1/4
New series Thursday 23 July 11.00-11.30pm BBC RADIO 4
For half an hour, BBC Radio 4 takes part in a unique experiment in "broadwebcasting" as it hands over control of its output to Bigipedia – the all-round 360-degree information knowledge article-based conglomerate portal.
Inspired by Wikipedia, Bigipedia is Radio 4's The Sunday Format for the online age. It features multiple-overlapping voices to create information "pages", service announcements, discussion forums and endless upgrades...
Written and created by Nick Doody and Matt Kirshen (Armando Iannucci's Charm Offensive), everything in Bigipedia is utterly untrue.
Producer/David Tyler
BBC Radio 4 Publicity
The information is also here. ISD (talk) 19:03, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
"Another upcoming Radio 4 project, written by stand-ups Nick Doody and Matt Kirshen, is called Bigipedia. "It's sort of like Wikipedia on the radio, as if Radio 4 has been taken over by this monstrous Wikipedia-style encyclopaedia of everything," says Tyler. "It's very different and I'm not sure whether the world is ready for it yet, but they're getting it whether they're ready or not." For the great archivists at Pozzitive it sounds like the perfect theme."
--Cybercobra (talk) 03:47, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia should delete the deletionists Shane Richmond of the British Daily Telegraph argues why deletionists are wrong in their view of what should be allowed on Wikipedia. 217.44.174.5 (talk) 22:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Before I actually read the article Wikipedia and kidnapping, new comedy series (a serious, interesting and complex topic), I excitedly thought that Wikipedia and kidnapping was the title of a new comedy series. This was a disappointment, as Wikipedia and kidnapping sounds like an original--even gonzo--premise, certainly with vastly more comedic potential than some rubbish like Two and a Half Men. --JayHenry (talk) 08:14, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Two Australian administrators (disclosure: myself included) speak with a newspaper about an Israeli study which suggests Wikipedians are a bunch of egocentric introverts. [1] It's probably worth highlighting that my remark about "slugging it out to the death" was referring to the behaviour of disputants at AN/I and RfAr and such places, rather than a general picture of the editing atmosphere/culture. Orderinchaos 11:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
See Commons:Commons:Village_pump#Legal_threat_from_National_Portrait_Gallery and Commons:User:Dcoetzee/NPG_legal_threat.
The UK's National Portrait Gallery has started legal proceedings against Dcoetzee (talk · contribs) for uploading around 3000 high-res images from the National Portrait Gallery's website to Commons, in accordance with Commons's PD-Art policy, which states that faithful copies of public domain works are also public domain, in defiance of UK copyright law.
Apparently the NPG contacted the Wikimedia Foundation in April, but they refused to bow to pressure, and so they are instead going after the uploaders, in a manner rather reminiscent of the RIAA.
-mattbuck (Talk) 00:38, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
The next issue is coming out in 36 hours; several editors (Wittylama, Orderinchaos78, Mathias Schindler, myself) are working to write an article quickly about archives and images that relates to this news. If it's possible to fit into the new issue we'd be delighted. Durova275 17:11, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Issue has gone mainstream; report 2 hours ago by the Evening Standard: [2] 217.44.211.110 (talk) 13:55, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Here is another article about it from the BBC. ISD (talk) 18:41, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
The number of Good articles passed 7,000 this week. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 01:29, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Stephen Fry posted on his Twitter account that he was pleased to see the article on Gropecunt Lane was on Wikipedia's main page all day. Link to the posting here.
ISD (talk) 06:36, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
In the last 24 hours, Kirill Lokshin and Rlevse appear to have resigned from the Arbitration Committee. This follows the resignation of Coren a week or so ago. Orderinchaos 04:14, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
WebCite, a popular on-demand web archiving service referenced by Wikipedia over 20,000 times, went down for a server upgrade on June 24th. WebCite is currently "on-line" but a few things were broken in the upgrade and it is currently not working properly - for example, returning error messages or blank pages for most previous archives. ThaddeusB has been in contact with Gunther Eysenbach throughout the process and would like to assure the community that efforts are underway to fix the broken links. In the mean time, please do not remove, or otherwise attempt to fix, "broken links" to webcitation.org. See this discussion for more information. --Blargh29 (talk) 05:21, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
FYI. WorldNetDaily.com has information regarding Wikipedia and Barrack Obama's birth location in Kenya ([http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103810]). Chris (talk) 16:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Over a claimed copyvio. -mattbuck (Talk) 00:14, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
I've just drafted Wikipedia:Notability and fiction as a result of Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Notability and fiction, don't know if that's the sort of thing you'd like to mention? Hiding T 10:47, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion (the most used criterion) has been expanded to include articles on individual animals (link to discussion). This is intended to cover articles on people's pets and the like, which fail to make any claims of importance and significance, and does not rope in any article on an animal class, such as a species.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:33, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
For the first time since October 2006, Wikipedia Statistics is updated for English Wikipedia. Erik Zachte blogs about it here and here.--ragesoss (talk) 15:34, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Not sure if there is enough info to warrant adding it to the signpost, but news sources have picked up that Sonia Sotomayor said in an interview, "... you think about a foreign law the way judges think about all sources of information, ideas. And you think about them as ideas both from law review articles and from state court decisions and from all the sources, including, Wikipedia, that people think about ideas." [3]. --Odie5533 (talk) 22:45, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
See Bugzilla:19809. Jidanni (talk) 02:00, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
We discovered this about a month ago, but I think nobody thought to notify Signpost then. Details are at Wikipedia_talk:Reliable_sources#Circularity_issue and Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_35#Is_a_resource_still_acceptable_if_it_contains_sentences_taken_verbatim_from_WP_itself.3F. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 15:52, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
[4] -mattbuck (Talk) 21:19, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
I've written to Noam Cohen and asked that he might add a correction to the article with a link to Wikipedia:Contact us/Photo submission, which was designed for *exactly* these purposes. Raul654 (talk) 22:59, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
A year ago Jerry Avenaim came to the attention of WP:FPC with this nomination, which was nearly speedy closed
*Comment Recommend closing as does not meet size requirements by a wide margin. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk; todo) 12:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Speedy close - nowhere near size requirement, which is a must for a living person. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 13:17, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Second Speedy close per Papa and Vanderdecken. Clegs (talk) 15:58, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
I noticed that the photographer was an active editor and contacted him to explain the featured content standards. Mr. Avenaim supplied a larger version that met the size requirements. Following resubmission it was still a difficult promotion because some editors wanted to move the goalposts beyond what was stated in the official criteria. This went back and forth for a while, but a snippet:
*Oppose' the original and edit 1. Neutral for edit 2. It's not that big, and for professional, commercial celebrity portraiture I feel that we shouldn't settle for the bare minimum; maybe somebody wants to make a poster based on the image. On the other hand, encouraging this kind of contribution is good, and we can also raise our standards later if free licensing of this type of image becomes common.--ragesoss (talk) 05:52, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
- With respect, this nomination was suspended for a week in order to request a larger file size. During that time any argument for a larger minimum might have been made, but wasn't. The photographer has complied with our published requirements and it really isn't fair to change the rules and generate a double standard after the photographer has fulfilled our request. Professional photographers have financial motivation not to upload larger files than necessary, due to the risk of downmarket exploitation of their work. The best way to encourage this type of contribution is to operate within our existing rules. Then, if we're fortunate enough to receive more of this type of material, at some point where the standards generally rise we may review the existing material on that basis. Let's not look fickle. DurovaCharge! 08:00, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Yes, that's the Signpost editor-in-chief in the debate. And if I may say so, not taking the long view on the matter. Last week in the aftermath of the legal threat from the National Portrait Gallery I was talking to Noam Cohen, who loved the idea that a leading professional portrait photographer was donating part of his work to the public through Wikipedia. Now the story is on the front page of Slashdot.[5] It's important to recognize that some of the people who edit this project bring a lot to the table, and to encourage them so that their example inspires their colleagues to join us as volunteers. Durova280 13:42, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Dropping a note off here to let you know that a half-year summary of arbitration activities has been published at January to June 2009 report. Comments and feedback are being invited on the talk page. I also mentioned the Signpost series of TROLL reports at the end. I'm a subscriber to the Signpost, and while I'm here, I'd like to thank the editors who write and prepare the TROLL reports. Hopefully this half-year report will give even more insight into the type, range and volume of work that is done in arbitration, plus the major changes that have taken place this year. Carcharoth (talk) 05:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
The article for Bigipedia has been created and the series begins tomorrow. Pozzitive Productions, the company behind the series, has released a YouTube clip of the first episode. ISD (talk) 08:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
From Wired: Wikipedia Teaches NIH Scientists Wiki Culture. Mindmatrix 16:30, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Tropenmuseum in Amsterdam and Spaarnestad Museum of Haarlem are partnering with WMF to provide content. Tropenmuseum has committed to uploading 100,000 images to Wikimedia Commons. Spaarnestad has plans to upload an undisclosed number of images. Gerard Meijssen (User:GerardM), who heads the Open Progress Foundation, has been instrumental to the progress, working in cooperation with the WMF Netherlands chapter.[6][7] Durova281 19:02, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
-- featured briefly, a followup report (results? participants?) might be good
Might be worth writing something about Wikipedia:The Great Wikipedia Dramaout. –Juliancolton | Talk 03:14, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
As of 22 July 2009, all of the (roughly) 100,000 images that the German Federal Archive (Bundesarchiv) donated to Wikimedia Commons in December 2008 have been categorized. Now that this categorization project has been completed, perhaps you can direct those who are interested to the similar Deutsche Fotothek project, which now has just under 16,000 images (of about 250,000) still needing categories. Thanks! TFCforever (talk) 14:03, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
The article List of fictional books from non-print media got mentioned in a New York Times piece last week, see here [8]. The mention is at the end and it's short, but still a nice nod :) --Bookgrrl holler/lookee here 14:10, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Someone from the Telegraph.co.uk blog created a Wikipedia page entitled Great repeal bill, with the intention of repealing multiple decisions by the UK government (details). The bill itself was a Wikipedia page, and designed with the intention of getting people all over the UK to work on it. Of course, after a couple of moves and one full protection, it was deleted by our admins. Because it was in the Telagraph's blog, could we get a mention in ITN, perhaps? Might be an interesting story. The Earwig (Talk | Contribs) 14:13, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
The New York Times has a story about the Rorschach test inkblot images appearing on Wikipedia (and the kerfuffle that has ensued since they were added). It has been picked up by other news outlets (eg - Toronto Star version). Mindmatrix 14:46, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
A poll has opened to resolve a long-standing and contentious dispute over the names of several articles related to Ireland, most recently dealt with by the ArbCom. Polling is by PRSTV (aka instant-runoff voting in American English); the chosen solution will be enforced for a period of two years. Compare the well-known case of the vote which took place in a similar dispute over the name of the article Gdańsk. --Kwekubo (talk) 21:58, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
The Tropenmuseum has announced plans to host a partnered exhibit with the Wikimedia Foundation and WMF Netherlands. This will be the first collaborative exhibit where Wikimedians work with a major museum. The Tropenmuseum is an anthropological museum in Amsterdam; the partnered exhibit will be about the Maroon people of Suriname. It is scheduled to run in the museum's physical space from November 2009 through May 2010.
Wikimedians will assist the exhibit through article building, translation, categorization, and media restoration.
The Tropenmuseum-WMF partnered exhibit was announced by WMF Netherlands and covered by two Dutch newspapers: Brabants Dagblad[9] and Parool.[10] Durova294 20:14, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Here. Awadewit (talk) 22:05, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
August 4, 2009 magazine article is here. The article cites a blog posting, dated July 22, by the Augmented Social Cognition (ASC) Research Group at Palo Alto Research Center (PARC): "PART 1: The slowing growth of Wikipedia: some data, models, and explanations". -- John Broughton (♫♫) 13:10, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
In "PART 2: More details of changing editor resistance in Wikipedia", researchers at PARC conclude that there is "evidence of growing resistance from the Wikipedia community to new content, especially when the edits come from occasional editors." In total, 5.8 percent of all edits in 2008 were reverted for reasons other than vandalism, or by a bot, double the percentage in 2005 (2.8 percent). As for occasional editors: By the end of 2008, this revert rate (again, non-vandalism) was close to 25% for editors making only a single edit during a given month, and was more than 15% for editors making 2 to 9 edits in a given month. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:59, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
There is an article about Wikipedia in The Guardian approaching it's 3,000,000th article, as well as looking at inclusionists and deletionists. ISD (talk) 14:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Read more at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)/Archive_20#The_Alphascript-Amazon-Wikipedia_book_hoax. This may not be new (June) but seems pretty major and I don't recall this being covered in the Signpost. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 04:18, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
News that Wikipedia has reached 3,000,000 has been reported by The Guardian. ISD (talk) 08:17, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
There is an article in the Daily Telegraph about the top 50 most viewed articles on Wikipedia in 2008 and 2009. ISD (talk) 17:58, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
As wikipedians may garner some insight into growth/evolution of wikiprojects via interviews, so perhaps wikipedians may also be interested to know the challanges and successes editors/contributors experience in attaining featured consensus from reviewers and the process/evolution of an editing an article, list, media to attain feature status via an interview process. To see if there were plausible questions, I searched a few of the existing WP interviews published on Signpost, and some of their questions could be modified for Featured article, feature list or feature media contributors....interview question beginnings. Such an interview may give further interest to wikipedians who may wish to view to the items reaching feature status, to understand why the featured items which were chosen for main page status, and to appreciate the efforts of the contributors who worked on bringing the items to featured status. Something similar has been done where contributors who have successfully brought several articles to featured status have been interviewed, (FL FA interview in the past) but it may be helpful to interview a fledgling or new editor/team of editors who has/have just attained their first featured item status in various fields. Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 01:50, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
According to the Twitter account belonging to David Tyler, the producer and director of Bigipedia the series will be made available to download from sites like audible and iTunes in a few months time. ISD (talk) 07:52, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
This should be in the next Signpost IMO.Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 13:11, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
The Wikimedia Foundation has released an official reader app for the iPhone. [11] Many third-party apps exist, and indeed have more advanced features, but WMF's is open source. Official documentation has been limited, but the app is already in the top 50 free apps.--HereToHelp (talk to me) 15:38, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
Regards, HaeB (talk) 19:50, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
You should mention Wikipedia:WikiCup/2010 Signups.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 00:01, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Hm, just something I recently stumbled upon.. this may be old news already but I thought it might be worth a mention depending on what the results will be of this survey. Here's a quick excerpt:
In April, our research group gathered together several editors and asked them what they would like to find out about fellow Wikipedians when interacting with them. As our end goal is to create an embedded application that helps people quickly know more about others' history and activity on Wikipedia, we felt our design would be much more useful if it were based on insights from Wikipedians. Our participants gave generously of their time and provided us with lots of interesting possibilities for our application. Based on those editors’ feedback, we created a few different images designed to quickly communicate the pattern of someone's various activities on Wikipedia. We are now looking for your feedback on how useful these images are to you.
It can be found at this userpage. -- Ϫ 21:09, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia testing new method to curb false info Powers T 18:22, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
There is an article about this in the Daily Telegraph. ISD (talk) 07:48, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
This session will address some of the prevailing issues in Digital Copyright that companies, and information orgs, face bringing creative assets online. Our speakers have litigated on a range of copyright cases, and generously bring their expertise to bear for the benefit of Visual Web Meetup members.
Simon Frankel [13], Partner with Covington & Burling LLP, has broad litigation experience and specializes in Intellectual Property Litigation. He is Chair of the Copyright Society, USA.
Fred von Lohmann [14] is Senior Staff Attorney with Electronic Frontier Foundation, specializing in intellectual property matters. In 2008, Fred was named one of the 50 leading intellectual property lawyers in California by the Daily Journal.
Mike Godwin [15] is General Counsel for Wikimedia Foundation and the author of Cyber Rights: Defending Free Speech in the Digital Age
Wednesday 2 September, 18:30.
Covington & Burling, LLP, One Front Street, San Francisco.
Free but must RSVP at [16].
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Lgm123 (talk • contribs) 2009-08-25t20:34:20z
On the BBC series Who Do You Think You Are? last week, Wikipedia was used as a research tool. The programme followed Martin Freeman of The Office as he tried to find information about his paternal grandfather. He used our article on the Dunkirk evacuation to look at the dates near the top of the article and discovered that it was possible the grandfather died just before the evacuation. Subsequent research confirmed this to be the case.
Tipster's note: Even though I have last week's TV guide here I can't for the life of me find the transmission date of the show as first broadcast. However, I currently have the repeat on which started at 19:00 UTC on BBC2, Tuesday 1st August. --bodnotbod (talk) 18:26, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/09/01/Doctors_Group_Says_Wikipedia_Defamed_It.htm —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 01:08, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Not enough for a story, but perhaps a mention that we crossed the 1500 FL mark with the promotions on 29 August. Dabomb87 (talk) 12:31, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/09/02/netbase-thinks-you-can-get-rid-of-jews-with-alcohol-and-salt/ —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:10, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
The Wikipedian discovery of human remains during restoration of an image of the aftermath at Wounded Knee has entered the official Library of Congress record.[17] The Montreal Museum of Fine Arts has incorporated this factual update into its program notes for the current exhibit "Expanding Horizons: Painting and Photography of the American and Canadian Landscape 1860-1918". An unedited version of the Wounded Knee print is number 76 in the catalog.[18] Durova310 17:41, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps the Signpost could include a humor section with some funny clips from discussions around Wikipedia, or with a humorous interpretation/editorial on something going on around the encyclopedia. An example of something that could be put in the section is this clip I found on User:Harej:
From Talk:Carbomb (beer cocktail), where it was recommended to rename the page to Irish Car Bomb.
Thanks, Ks0stm (T•C) 16:34, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
It might be an idea to report on the overall achievements of the cup when it ends at the end of October. Obviously this report will announce the winner and other results as well as note the signup which are taking place right now. I'd be happy to write this myself, actually. GARDEN 20:26, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
WP:POST might find it interesting that WP:CHICAGO chooses Category:Top-importance Chicago articles by a consensus vote of its members.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:35, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
More than 500,000 articles now provide geographic coordinates based on the {{coord}} template, according to the template transclusion counter. WikiProject Geographical coordinates, however, knows of at least another 169,000 articles which ideally should have coordinates; these are listed in the category tree Category:Articles missing geocoordinate data by country. Wikipedia:How to add geocodes to articles refers. --Tagishsimon (talk) 00:23, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
We got a mention:
http://www.theonion.com/content/amvo/wikipedia_contributors_mostly_male
©Geni 17:00, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
There is blog post by The Guardian's Roy Greenslade about things jounalists do. It includes:
6. Some journalists use Wikipedia Although its use is frowned upon in many newsrooms, because of its perceived unreliability, many reporters do rely on Wikipedia as a source. So unverified facts sometimes make their way into news stories.
ISD (talk) 08:30, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
See this and this, along with relevant discussion here. TML (talk) 15:27, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
I don't know whether this is within the scope of Wikipedia Signpost and if you can help us with this. PediaPress aims to hire a "Community and Communications Assistant". Since we assume that this is a perfect job for a Wikipedian, having this mentioned in Signpost would be helpful. If this is not possible, any other advise how to spread the word within the community is also welcome. Thanks! --He!ko (talk) 08:51, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
There has recently been a revival of a long running discussion at Talk:Leeds. The argument boils down to whether there should be (as at present) a single article covering the local government district "City of Leeds" which contains an urban area commonly known as "Leeds" as well as its surrounding hinterland, or whether (as existed prior to a merge earlier this year, about which there is currently no consensus about whether there was consensus for it or not) there should be two articles. This is just the latest round in a debate that has been going on for months (it goes back to at least November last year). This round was precipitated by a table, now at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about districts#List of districts named from settlements, that showed Leeds was the only such settlement/district that had a single article where the settlement/district did not meet six criteria that are common to almost all other settlements/districts that have the same name and a single Wikipedia article. The opposite case, where two settlements/districts with the same name and two articles each, but which do not meet any of the criteria shared by other such settlements/districts with two articles (Poole/Poole (borough), Bournemouth/Bournemouth (borough)) have not proved anywhere near as controversial - see Talk:Poole (borough) and Talk:Bournemouth (borough).
I am involved in this empassioned discussion (although not as much as some others) regarding Leeds, and so I do not feel capable of writing an NPOV article about it. Thryduulf (talk) 13:53, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
This is a couple of months old (but I just read it today), and it might be worth mentioning/discussing: There's an unflattering article about experiences editing Wikipedia in the June 2009 issue of OR/MS Today, the INFORMS magazine. You can read it here or download the whole magazine here. It ends with
Yet, their ways of manhandling authors of new entries suggests that creating entries there is something to avoid although I did read a newspaper story about a high school dropout who created 400+ entries posing as a classics professor. Overall, my experience of Wikipedia was like that dealing with a gang of marauding young men roaming around the countryside looking for victims — yup, no country for old men.
The writer seems to be generally confused about what's going on (I don't understand what his allegations of malice are), and the attempted article is (almost surely) Six Sigma Pricing (AfD). The magazine is sent to all INFORMS members (everyone working in Operations Research and related areas); the article has been mentioned in e.g. blog comments here. Shreevatsa (talk) 16:05, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
See Wikipedia talk:Footnotes#cite.php update. Dragons flight (talk) 16:18, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
The science and technology journal New Scientist has an ongoing 4-part series called "Blueprint for a better world". Jimmy Wales has a comment on page 35 of the 19 September issue, stating that:
"The most important thing we can do as individuals is to think. Instead of responding with your gut reaction, get the facts, get a complete picture of the problem and the possible solutions. As an exercise, take one of your strongly held opinions and challenge it. Spend a week, or better a month, researching it. You may find that you were mistaken. And if it turns out that you were right, then so much the better."
I think we should include this as both good advice and as a message from our founder. -- EA Swyer Talk Contributions 23:27, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
The notability guidelines for aviation accidents and incidents, WP:AIRCRASH, have been significantly reworked over the past few months by myself and other editors. Following consensus on the talk page the new guidelines are more focused on actual notability and merging moderately notable incidents to an apropriate place, as the old guidelines were often criticised for encouraging articles on the most minor of incidents. The new guidelines are now live for beta testing and comments are requested on the talk page. Thryduulf (talk) 11:41, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Great video. Also happens to mention Wikipedia (begins on 9 minute mark). Link: [19]. Calaka (talk) 14:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Lulzy aside from a screenwriters book previewed by HuffPo:
“ | Donald Rumsfeld had to be talked out of editing his own entry on Wikipedia, which he referred to as "Wika-wakka." He was a Drudge Report reader and used to watch YouTube clips that made fun of his press conference performances. | ” |
Might be worth a quick mention :) Skomorokh 20:00, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
An introduction to HTML 5 has been posted on the Google Developers YouTube channel, and it briefly mentions plans for MediaWiki to add support for some nifty new SVG stuff (starts at the 20:29 mark). 「ダイノガイ千?!」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 17:52, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113128568 —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 02:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/27/more-on-the-hanno-wikipedia-graph-in-the-un-climate-report/ —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 20:43, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
and nor am I sure how far the signpost is interested in stretching towards what might be rather close to wiki-investigative reporting (probably not such a good thing, or at least something to be careful of, I guess) - buy anywhoo... Peter Damian (who I think is currently a banned user) alleges that FT2 ran a 'sock puppet' ages ago, and should admit it - my layman's reading of the situation does make it look like a few direct simple questions to FT are in order - though there's the additional problem that FT feels he can't talk about it at all because he's been instructed by arbcom not to talk about PD at all, anywhere - candidate for the 'drama' column? see here for my chat with Jayvdb about it too.... Privatemusings (talk) 14:42, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
[21] It appears that User:Fg2, a prolific contributor to Japan-related topics, has passed away. Cla68 (talk) 21:33, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone contacted Shirley Tamura yet? I want to help - Draeco (talk) 01:53, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
I also informed WP:ACID of this idea, they might be interested in collaboration. - Draeco (talk) 02:40, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I found out that Fg2 created Portal:Japan. Kaldari (talk) 15:42, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I added the notice of his death to the Commons account and to his Japanese Wikipedia account (both in English) - I also updated the English meta list of deceased Wikipedians, which is located here: meta:Deceased_editors WhisperToMe (talk) 18:25, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Fg2 fairly thoroughly covered all things Japan, from history, to culture, to arts, people, and much more. So it is difficult to single out any one in particular. However, one area that I noticed that he had a particular interest in was in Japanese jidaigeki, period dramas focusing on samurai and rōnin stories. He created a number of articles on various series, the actors staring in them, and the historical characters and events that appeared in them. This alone is too vague, but perhaps it may begin some ideas or discussion. Bendono (talk) 15:47, 9 October
I also think we need to have a selection made by the next Signpost release (12 Oct) so everything can be set up to garner the maximum response. - Draeco (talk) 23:41, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I count three votes for Mount Fuji, one for the earthquake (with Fuji as second-place), and one for Hiroshima. I hesitate somewhat because I didn't know Fg2 in real life, but I think a pretty clear concensus is emerging, and we have to act now if one article is to appear in this issue of the Signpost. I'm boldly going to name Mount Fuji as the collaboration. Please anyone revert my changes on the Signpost article (back to an ongoing discussion) if you disagree. - Draeco (talk) 00:15, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
I recently proposed a wording change to the Notability article here, basically from "required" to "should", and considerable debate has ensued. I realize this is just one of countless notability or inclusion vs deletion debates, but it might merit a sentence in your current discussion subsection. Do with it what you please. - Draeco (talk) 01:48, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
One of the things thrown up during the Law/undertow case was the email filter which was impeding communication with Arbs. I think that this could be an interesting story. DuncanHill (talk) 12:45, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
Openmoko has just launched a small, handheld reader for Wikipedia. $100, runs on AA batteries, no pictures, and has been filtered for use by kids. Official site, TechCrunch review. Steven Walling 18:04, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Here is a link which we would like to bring to your attention regarding the Choctaw Nation tribes of Florida.
http://latestjacksonnews.blogspot.com/2009/08/choctaws-of-jackson-county.html
We had posted information to you website which has been deleted. Can you assist us with a webpage too, we would appreciate your assistance
Their many tribes which consist of the Choctaw Nation. Thank you in advance for your help.
Having seen today one of the most amusing edit summaries I've seen in a while, I was thinking that a lighter note on perhaps the DRAMA page would be to note some interesting or amusing edit summaries seen around the wiki during the week.
The edit summary that sparked the idea is "I've moved the word "and" so it no longer looks like Trevor McDonald is the duchess of cornwall. Sorry." [25], written by user:87.80.202.14. Thryduulf (talk) 21:32, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
There's some informative - and quite harsh at times - examination of early Wikipedia history, in the article "Wikipedia Co-Founder Speaks Out Against Jimmy Wales". There's extensive quotes from Larry Sanger and Jimmy Wales, while entrepreneur Jason Calacanis weighs in on a business (Wikia) angle. -- Seth Finkelstein (talk) 21:42, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
There is a discussion ongoing at WP:PROPS#Talk_page_Comments_subpage regarding a proposal to deprecate the use of /Comments subpages that are created by the WPBannerMeta template, and used by many WikiProjects for assesment purposes. The proposal would seek to move these comments to the regular talk pages for greater visibility. Jim Miller See me | Touch me 21:51, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia gets a mention in the current edition of long-running British satirical/investigative journalism magazine Private Eye. (Issue 1247, 16-29 Oct 09, page 11):
Is this worthy of note? 86.152.23.225 (talk) 07:31, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't know if anyone has ever done anything like this before, but this is quite fascinating, and more than a little bit funny. Someone made a video documenting the complete history of vandalism to the Nickelback page, all set to Nickelback music. Besides from the oft-repeated assertion that they are all gay, we also learn that SpongeBob SquarePants and Adolf Hitler were former members. One editor poignantly asks "Why did God give me ears when this band exists?"
Also, maybe this article would be a good candidate for flagged revisions, when that time comes? Lampman (talk) 19:14, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
British broadsheet The Guardian today published a short interview with Jimbo Wales as part of a feature on how the internet has changed the world this decade. Not sure how helpful this is, but thought I'd tell you guys anyway. There's also a column from Alan Rusbridger (the editor) which explains how Wikipedia shouldn't work but does. Worth a shifty perhaps. Might be on the Guardian's website. GARDEN 19:52, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
I see the deadline is 03:00 UTC on Monday. For the Discussion Report, what would be a good working deadline for me to get you guys a list of the policy pages that are seeing the most action this month? Or should I just add that to the working page of the Discussion Report myself? Since August, I've been doing a monthly update in roughly the 4th week of the month and then again on the 1st, and I'd like to get notice out about which pages are seeing the most "action" and what the changes are in a Discussion Report before the end of each month. - Dank (push to talk) 14:38, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Pete Forsyth has joined the Foundation as the new Public Outreach Offficer, working under Frank Schulenberg (sp?). Also see the blog post from the WikiProject he has been active in. Steven Walling 23:02, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Good article nominations/Report is back up and running after a seven month hiatus. Is there a way to get an announcement that people can again see how to best help WP:GAC by viewing the daily report. See details at Wikipedia_talk:Good_article_nominations#Report_Bot_Req.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:23, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
In the article France Convicts Scientology of Fraud, the author mentions the WP ban of Scientology editors, and takes a swipe at WP in a tangential conclusion to the article:
Not sure it warrants mention on the signpost, but figured I'd mention it. Mindmatrix 02:22, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
... can now be in non-latin characters. [26], also lots of news stories. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 23:40, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Library of Congress reference librarians have confirmed that Roger Davies spotted an error in their bibliographic records on a British World War I recruitment poster. A restored version of the poster was recently promoted to featured picture at Wikipedia. The correction to the Library of Congress website should appear within one month. The Library of Congress is also correcting mistakes in its records regarding a portrait of John Surratt, a Confederate spy who conspired to kidnap Abrhaham Lincoln in 1864 and was suspected of conspiracy in Lincoln's assassination. Full details are available at my blog.[27] Would gladly fill in details upon request for Signpost staff. Regards, Durova355 19:15, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
[28] First female member of the Tower of London's Beefeaters was bullied and harrassed, including having her Wikipedia entry vandalized. Cla68 (talk) 21:06, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
TLDR discussion over a single space in an article's title: Talk:To Aru Majutsu no Index#Requested_move --Cybercobra (talk) 00:29, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
I think the decision by http://www.antweb.org to release images under CC and the bot upload of Ant images http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Bots/Requests/File_Upload_Bot_%28AntWeb%29 might be an interesting news item. Shyamal (talk) 05:11, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
There's an interesting short article in Business Insider about less-known co-founders (buggy site, may have to turn off ad-blockers). They cover among others "Larry Sanger: Wikipedia" -- Seth Finkelstein (talk) 04:35, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm new to Signpost, but here is a submission for the next edition. Feel free to edit it in any way and to place it in the proper section:
--Blargh29 (talk) 06:44, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
Covers a lot of old ground, but worth a mention: link. Skomorokh, barbarian 17:07, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
link. Skomorokh, barbarian 17:48, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
I hope this will attract interest from someone who doesn't normally hang out at FAC, GAN, or PR. The name probably should be change from semi-automated peer review (SAPR) to something like Simple Article Procedural Review. — Dispenser 22:37, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure I should write this up as I've been the main driver on this. But we've been running a little mystery shopping project on the speedy deletion process.
In September 2009 Gene McKenna wrote about bullying of newbies on Wikipedia. He challenged any newbie to write an article and see if would last seven days on Wikipedia, and added "Guaranteed, your article will be marked for “speedy deletion” within about two minutes of its creation."
A month later user:Casliber responded by starting Wikipedia:Requests for comment/new users, which started various threads of discussion about the many pitfalls we now put in the path of newby editors. Including an invitation by User:WereSpielChequers to Lets all create an extra account, take up the challenge to write an article as a newbie, see if it lasts 2 minutes without being speedied and whether it survives seven days.
Thus was born Wikipedia:Newbie treatment at CSD known to its friends as wp:NEWT. Starting with Searching for the Wrong-Eyed Jesus, twenty articles have been analysed at Wikipedia:Newbie treatment at CSD#Results, and technically we've passed the challenge posed by Gene McKenna, as only Wolfgang Stumph was both tagged within 2 minutes and deleted within 7 days. But this was a Pyrrhic victory, as three were tagged for deletion within the two minutes, three were deleted in the seven days (one of them twice). Eleven out of twenty were either tagged for deletion or deleted. And were our newbies made to feel their contributions were valued? Only one, User:Stormie's sock User:Force1995 author of Haig Sare had no deletion tags, no deletion and a welcome, an experience that really ought to be the norm for new wikipedians who submit articles that don't meet our deletion criteria.
My thanks to those who've participated so far, lets hope the next twenty fare a little better. ϢereSpielChequers 01:27, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Pretty trivial, but in this video from The Onion, at 0:45 the following scrolls across the bottom of the screen: "Report: Wikipedia ushering in a golden age of Holocaust revisionism." bibliomaniac15 05:08, 7 November 2009 (UTC)