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I was a guest presenter in a podcast. Here a proposal for covering it in the "in brief" section. I feel reliable in reporting the contents of the one-hour podcast to save the effort of editors here listening to it, but anyone else here can make a call on what to do with this.
We have a new contributor, CatPencil, who has gone through some rounds of editorial development of this submission with me at Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom/Submissions#Fandoms_and_the_Wikipedia. I think the submission is in good shape for consideration from others here, and I recommend it for publishing.
If you're from China, have you hit up 银河科幻大会? Why this? @CatPencil: are you Chinese? Very few of our readers can read chinese characters so this seems like a really random and poorly presented thing to bring up.Czarking0 (talk) 03:51, 27 August 2026 (UTC)reply
Heyo, @Czarking0: actually hm, I suppose should've seen this coming. When I was adding that, it was my third round of editorial editing the article and I was supposed to globalize the outlook, I put it to the intro, but then I moved most to the other parts of the article instead, seems like I missed that, as to where I should place it; as per this request I changed the place, and change it to the native chinese version. However, I did not change the name. I put similar spanish and french articles with their native names, so I feel like it would be unfair to treat the chinese one diffrently, instead I rather describe the article shortly so anyone would have an idea what it is. Thank you again. :) let me know how it looks! 𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕮𝖆𝖙𝕻𝖊𝖓𝖈𝖎𝖑 𝕿𝖎𝖒𝖊𝖘 (talk) 09:17, 27 August 2026 (UTC)reply
I am in favor of using some foreign words and text in our articles. I know these characters are inaccessible to many, but English Wikipedia also supports many other languages. There is a lot of anti-Chinese propaganda in the world, and to show that China has fandoms would be surprising to some and humanizing otherwise. We are in an age when mainstream United States media uses non-English language casually without subtitles or captions, such as the heavy Korean language use in the Netflix's most popular movie, the English language film KPop Demon Hunters, or the unapologetic dropping of Chinese cultural concepts in the very popular The Three-Body Problem media franchise which that Chinese con has promoted. Chinese, Japanese, and Korean culture are the basis for perhaps half of the fandom cultures, and a wikilink in context leading to more information is not so confusing or surprising.
I recognize that non-English characters do not appear in, for example, The New York Times. With English Wikipedia's global scope, and for a global article like this one, I think it is an experimental but not a poor choice. Good call Czarking for raising the issue, and also, good call CatPencil for doing editorial experimentation. Bluerasberry (talk)15:16, 27 August 2026 (UTC)reply
Hm, I saw some changes and the edits about changing the chinese articles to the english wikipedia ones(and not other ones), and thanks a lot. They're awesome, but like said here, I'm aware that there's english versions for the other language articles, but I feel like I'd rather use the chinese text and version, as per the projects listed in the piece are directly connected to those articles as well. Another reason is, I feel like it's a much more genuine way of telling the reader that 'hey, look at these awesome conventions in their native language', as thus I did the same with french and spanish as well. Plus, I don't really see them effecting the overall understanding of the piece, nor how it comes off to the reader. If anyone would like to change them, discussing here would be definetly nicer :D 𝕿𝖍𝖊 𝕮𝖆𝖙𝕻𝖊𝖓𝖈𝖎𝖑 𝕿𝖎𝖒𝖊𝖘 (talk) 16:37, 27 August 2026 (UTC)reply
I'm all in favor of wide latitude for Signpost contributors. This discussion helped me understand the motivation for showing the Chinese Wikipedia article. I'll go back and reformat my changes later today. My main preference here is that we use wikilinks not external links (e.g. not https://zh.wikipedia.org...) , but wikilinks to Chinese Wikipedia are just fine.
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