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Hello! I've noticed that a snippet from a previous thread of this page has been incorporated in the Newsroom's "In the media" panel for the next issue: was it a glitch, or did anyone do it on purpose?
By the way, I would be more than happy to write a short entry for that article about the Peruvian Clásico, and I've already got another interesting story on my mind, as well! Oltrepier (talk) 21:12, 22 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- I think the glitch is that the comments in the Newsroom page don't automatically clear out after the new issue, maybe not until the page for the new issue is created, or even maybe not at all! @JPxG: I think this is an artifact of your recent work on this issue. In general, though, that work has been useful.
- @Oltrepier: thanks for the contributions in the last issue. I think *everybody* liked them very much (or should have), and you should keep on contributing as much as you like. In fact we should all encourage you. It's especially good that we're getting (through you) more non-English language sources since we are supposed to be covering all Wikipedia languages. Keep up the good work. Smallbones(smalltalk) 18:30, 25 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @Smallbones I genuinely hope I can keep doing so, thank you so much for your support! : ) Oltrepier (talk) 21:46, 25 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @Oltrepier In a narrow sense this appears to have been your fault, because you created that section with the wrong heading - it should have started with "19-21" (like #19-21 Essay or #19-21 Recent research above) instead of "19-22"; for the same reason, it also wasn't included in Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom at the time when it should be been (i.e. until the publication).
- In a broader sense though, as Smallbones already alluded to, this is a problem with the new newsroom system itself that JPxG implemented recently, which relies on these cryptic numbers. (Or who among the Signpost team 1. always knows the volume and issue number of the upcoming issue and 2) that the sections actually have to use the volume and issue number of the *preceding* issue because JPxG wasn't able to find a better technical solution?) Hate to go "told you so", but this is exactly the kind of problem I predicted in the recent discussion about these changes (where I also suggested an IMHO less confusing solution, which admittedly would take more work and skill to implement). As said there, JPxG's
sloppy work on such tech issues has again and again been causing significant confusion and lost time for others on the team . This is another such instance. Regards, HaeB (talk) 05:31, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Since you asked, I know the issue number because I always record my contributions in my private roster using it. ☆ Bri (talk) 06:20, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @HaeB @Bri @Smallbones Ok, thank you all for clarifying.
- By the way, I've just added a new short entry to the "In the media" draft, and I've also got an interesting idea for the second lead story, hopefully I can add it sooner rather than later... Oltrepier (talk) 21:29, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- The template that generates the "create a new section" link from the Newsroom automatically inserts the section with the correct name. Previously, the system was to just not transclude items from here to the Newsroom at all, and there was a separate set of comments there and here; this also had to be reset regularly. @HaeB: I am a little saddened to hear this; I've pinged you before (when I've had a lot of free time) to ask what specific technical improvements you think I should focus on, and gotten no response at all; if your preference is for the issues to remain unfixed and you just like calling me a fool every few weeks, I guess that is fine, but let me know so that I can stop trying to actually think of what should be addressed. jp×g🗯️ 19:02, 28 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Smallbones: For the record, I think I've found the English version of that Haaretz article you've been looking for, hopefully it helps. Didn't we already address the news in a previous issue, though? Oltrepier (talk) 18:03, 29 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Wow @Oltrepier:, you're right. It looks like User:Ca added the two line blurb, which we used as is, on Nov. 17 when the article first came out. On Nov. 26 Haaretz's standard email notification sent me the same story in Hebrew (identical except for the headline) and I just missed the connection. Thanks - likely I'll just delete the section for this issue. Smallbones(smalltalk) 19:46, 29 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @Smallbones Oh, ok, but I think it might actually be notable enough to keep it!
- Oh, and I'm also completing my own entry for the second lead story... Oltrepier (talk) 20:16, 29 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Ok, my draft should be live and ready for copyediting now! Oltrepier (talk) 21:41, 29 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- It looks good to me. I just added a link to when we covered her Nobel Price acceptance speech. Smallbones(smalltalk) 17:58, 30 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As far as the Haaretz article. I'm pretty sure I don't have the time or the skills to do a good write up. It looks like a minefield to me, but anybody else who wants to write it should go ahead. Smallbones(smalltalk) 17:58, 30 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @Smallbones I think I can at least help you write a proper entry, but I won't have enough time to do it until tomorrow... Oltrepier (talk) 21:14, 30 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Thanks (if you want to take on the whole thing!) Smallbones(smalltalk) 22:38, 30 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Actually, I'll likely be late with it, I'm so sorry... Oltrepier (talk) 21:40, 1 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- @Smallbones Ok, surprisingly enough, I've managed to prepare and submit a last-gasp write up for the Haaretz article: since it's under pay-wall, I couldn't add many details aside of the Yoram Cohen dispute, but I tried to do my best. I hope it's good enough! Oltrepier (talk) 18:09, 2 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- OK @Oltrepier:, for some reason (maybe because I accept their email reports) they let me see the full article. I've got an hour of work to do on my Disinformation report before deadline! after that I'll go over the Haaretz section in ITM, then there's a bunch of other stuff I've left hanging... Smallbones(smalltalk) 18:55, 2 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Images for lead story[edit]
I have created some images for the first ITM item "Edit wars over real-life war in Gaza" (Haaretz report on editwarring). I'd like the team to select one.
Cheers ☆ Bri (talk) 22:23, 2 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- I think #3 should be eliminated because I've seldom seen Israelis (or Palestinians) wear ties. #2 is better than #1 IMHO. Smallbones(smalltalk) 23:47, 2 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- 2 is better, if only because the typewriters in #1 make no sense.
- Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:12, 3 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- 2 looks good to me, as well! Oltrepier (talk) 09:06, 3 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- Please include the prompts used (per c:Commons:AI-generated_media#Description). Regards, HaeB (talk) 23:06, 3 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- I have been working on some CSS/html/template/js shiznit lately and I think I might be able to make the "images on the Signpost front page" thing work again, without it requiring 800 hours of labor like it did when we tried this last year. jp×g🗯️ 02:00, 4 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
- I did and it works. Article headers now take a
piccy= param which can be used for a header image that'll automatically get put on the main Signpost page and also in the archives (which, incidentally, also have subheadings too). That and some CSS fixes for templates and the external site. Ready to be ready now. jp×g🗯️ 07:01, 4 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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