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An extension for the Google Chrome browser called WikiPreview allows users to mouseover wikilinks in Wikipedia articles to display the first sentence or two of the article linked to. Reported by Lifehacker. Gobonobo T C 03:50, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikimedia staffer Jay Walsh posted a link to a quiz about Wikipedia at Washington Post. Brilliant communitymaker and former Wikimedian User:Pete Forsyth got an 85%, which was my score too. Jay hasn't posted his score, but it's a neat little 14-question quiz. tedder (talk) 18:43, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
XKCD 906. Wikipedia-style references in advertising. tedder (talk) 19:39, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
See announcement here and community invitation here. :) Steven Walling at work 23:08, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
The Wikimedia Foundation has assembled a diverse and multinational team of researchers to investigate issues of "Openness and Participation". The team of eight researchers will be working with the community department through June, July and August.
Areas of investigation include:
Contributed by ϢereSpielChequers who is currently on a short term fellowship in the community department. 14:45, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Further to his 29 April meeting with internet representatives, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has issued instructions to the Ministry of Culture and Mass Communications to draft amendments to Russian legislation which will "give authors the right to make their works available on a free-licence basis to the public at large (along the lines of Creative Commons, GNU FDL)". According to a 2008 letter from User:Russavia/Natalya Timakova, the President's Press Attache, Creative Commons licencing is not currently on the statutes of the Russian Federation. As a sidenote, since October 2008, materials from the President's website at http://www.kremlin.ru have been licenced under Creative Commons Attribution Unported 3.0 licencing.
The President has also instructed the Ministry "to discuss with media representatives, including internet and broadcast media, other information copyright holders, authors’ organisations, and Russian and international experts the use of works protected by copyright laws, taking into account modern methods for their reproduction, and analyse global practice in order to develop models that would expand and facilitate public access to material of cultural value, including for information, scientific and educational purposes, and draft proposals for discussion at international forums based on the conclusions reached" and "to draft proposals on procedures for giving nationally accredited intermediate vocational and higher professional education establishments access to audiovisual materials in the state mass media archives".
Medvedev has given the Ministry until 1 August to act on his instructions.
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--Russavia I'm chanting as we speak 14:38, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Since this was suggested as a possible brief monthly feature, here's my roundup for May 2011:
This May the number of good articles crossed the 12,000 mark for the first time. However, the monthly increase of 181 GAs was the smallest since July 2010, and was less than half the rise achieved this March. The number of articles awaiting review has risen to 380, with a backlog dating to March in some categories. A shortage of reviewers, and fatigue from a backlog reduction drive earlier this year, have been blamed for the current slow progress. Reviewers are urgently sought, particularly for the lengthy queue of music articles and in connection with a university assignment project on several sociology topics.
Use/edit away if useful! TheGrappler (talk) 03:02, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Washington Post article, mentions a specific editor, mean as custard and very positive coverage of the use of Wikipedia in a classroom.--SPhilbrickT 13:19, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
An upcoming issue of the ornithological journal Ibis calls for scientists working with birds to contribute to Wikipedia and to set improving the articles as class assignments. You can see the early-bird article here, helpfully made free to view! This is actually quite a nice acknowledgement of the importance by one of the top journals in the field, and hopefully will lead not only better articles in birds but also other scientific fields too. It also explains some aspects of wiki-culture and points out some drawbacks and failures in Wikipedia, although not in any mean way. Sabine's Sunbird talk 00:41, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
The philosophy professor Massimo Pigliucci has a blog post up called What do I think of Wikipedia?
(And I've got a response. Just sayin'.) —Tom Morris (talk) 06:24, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
As reported in the Signpost, the Amsterdam-based Institute of Network Cultures recently published "Critical Point of View: A Wikipedia Reader" (PDF download), collecting research papers from the CPOV research initiative's conference series about Wikipedia last year, edited by Geert Lovink and Nathaniel Tkacz. (See also the Signpost interview with Tkacz and Johanna Niesyto from the CPOV initiative.)
Summarizing and (critically ;) reviewing these papers should make for a very interesting Signpost article. Because the whole book might be a bit much for one person, I suggest splitting the review up, with each reviewer covering one chapter (or maybe two). Depending on how long the reviews get, we can publish them in several Signpost issues. The papers are grouped into five chapters, with the following themes:
If you are interested in covering a chapter, please sign up at the Signpost review desk and indicate when you intend to submit the review (preferrably before the end of July). Ragesoss has already agreed to do chapter 4 (but would also be prepared to do chapter 1 if someone else wants to do chapter 4). I myself would cover chapter 2 (or, if someone else wants to do that, chapter 1).
Two papers which had already been published elsewhere have been covered previously in the Signpost, and can therefore safely be left out of the review: Heather Ford's "The Missing Wikipedians" in chapter 4 (Signpost coverage), and Tkacz' interview with Edgar Enyedy ("‘Good luck with your wikiPAIDia’: Reflections on the 2002 Fork of the Spanish Wikipedia", chapter 2 - Signpost coverage).
Regards, HaeB (talk) 20:52, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
Signpost writers, editors and enthusiasts may want to keep track of the discussion at Talk:Main Page#Formal proposal to put Featured Lists on the main page from 13 June. It's a remote possibility that Today's Featured List could go live this Monday, but 13 or 20 June seem far more likely. Either way, I figured that a new section on the main page would be worthy of coverage in this week's edition. I'd be very happy to attempt to write a piece on it, or give a more talented/neutral writer any help they might need. —WFC— 21:20, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure whether it's redundant to list something here that's already at Wikipedia:Press coverage 2011, but see this. There's an interview with a West Yorkshire GP with this BBC report that I found a little scary, given the history of CoI editing by pharmaceutical company reps. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 10:09, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi there, last week I launched the aforementioned project, aimed to collect 35 new community books based on featured and quality articles as a way to celebrate wp10. It's a first on our project, so I thought you might be interested. You can read more on Wikilove's blog, on my blog (in Italian, but there's a button to Google-translate it), while the project itself is here. Regards, --Elitre (talk) 06:24, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
"The past is never dead, Sarah Palin edition", Politico, June 6
-- John Broughton (♫♫) 15:00, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
In the last week or so a two review page controversy developed about the quality of source checking at FAC and MILHIST A class review. This follows from earlier plagiarism panics at FAC, and long standing concerns with the research quality of MILHIST articles. While both FAC and MILHIST A have seen improvement, the spot checking of sources for copyvio, plagiarism, close paraphrase and supporting their facts is a slow manual process needing advice. As a result of a recommendation I provided a loose description of the process I used. It was suggested that this go either to Signpost or MILHIST's Bugle. Before proceeding to condense and improve language, I wanted suggestions from editors here about how to approach the writing task, and if editors here could see publishing this report as a useful contribution. Fifelfoo (talk) 03:50, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
http://slightlynew.blogspot.com/2011/05/who-writes-wikipedia-information.html TLDR edition: "About half of the top 50 contributors are bots". Also, "The more you edit Wikipedia, the more your edits are valuable to Wikipedia. There might indeed be Good Samaritans, but their efforts seem to be outweighed by fly-by vandals." Note this flies in the face of Wikimedia's recent blog entry. Naturally, Wikimedia is very interested in the data. Also, Nat Torkington blurbed it, saying "The top bots are doing things ... which could be done by humans but which it would be a scandalous waste of human effort if they were." tedder (talk) 03:28, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Check out Wikipedia talk:List of Wikipedians by number of edits#Users with zero edits - nearly 10 million of our 14 million registered EN WP users have never actually made an edit to EN WP (even deleted edits), almost double the number of users who have. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 04:17, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
had an article in it's May 26th edition (page A13) with the headline (all the way across the page) Website Reignites Spelling Debate: Tilde or No Tilde? The website cited is wikipedia. Are you interested in more? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 15:38, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
An editorialist in last week's BMJ (British Medical Journal, doi:10.1136/bmj.d3387) has written about the work of WikiProject Medicine. She also picked up on doi:10.2196/jmir.1589, an article in the Journal for Medical Internet Research that was written by members of the WikiProject earlier this year. JFW | T@lk 08:43, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
He ran for Management Council and has been voted in - David Gerard (talk) 11:52, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia awash in 'frothy by-product' of US sexual politics "Famously, Rick Santorum – the former Pennsylvania Senator and a Republican candidate for president of the United States – has a Google problem. But he also has a Wikipedia problem. And the two go hand-in-hand." -- Seth Finkelstein (talk) 18:29, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
From the executive summary of the new Flanagin and Metzger et al. (2010) Kids and Credibility: An Empirical Examination of Youth, Digital Media Use, and Information Credibility (MIT Press) cited here:
I hope this is of interest. I've seen a lot of Signpost reports on such mentions. 76.254.22.47 (talk) 22:25, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Will need to mention this. Onwiki stuff starts here:
Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee#Who_is_responsible.3F
©Geni 22:24, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
I'd like to suggest a short report on our national wiki-meetup-a-thon that was the Great American Wiknic on Saturday.--Pharos (talk) 21:24, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Ten thousand people checked out Wikimedia Commons' Picture of the Year on BuzzFeed: [1] Lampman (talk) 06:05, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Here's the list so far: Media coverage of WikiLove deployment. Kaldari (talk) 06:23, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Spotted in Reddit: How I became an administrator on Wikipedia and inadvertently deleted its main page. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 19:51, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Green 960 has a comerdy sketch based around the "The Super-Secret Conservative Wikipedia Modification Committee". Placed on youtube here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZcfy47SM1Q
©Geni 04:08, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
User:Shell Kinney has left Wikipedia. Count Iblis (talk) 21:18, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
The second series of Bigipedia, or Bigipedia 2.0 begins on 12th July at 23.00 on BBC Radio 4. The BBC website says: "At last, the long-awaited release of Bigipedia 2.0 - the infallible, ever-present cyberfriend is back! Now with all errors mistake." ISD (talk) 16:38, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Very interesting blog post by David Allen Green about a 'David Rose' editing in support of Johann Hari: http://jackofkent.blogspot.com/2011/07/who-is-david-rose.html
More by Nick Cohen at http://www.spectator.co.uk/politics/all/7075743/diary.thtml
Picked up by Telegraph at http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100096195/johann-hari-wikipedia-and-a-porn-site-an-extraordinary-new-development/
--A bit iffy (talk) 23:35, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
GLAMDerby, Wikimedia UK's first collaboration with a smaller museum, Derby Museum and Art Gallery, kicked off with a backstage pass event in April. There was lots of talk about the 95% of artefacts that are not shown in museums, but only one Wikipedia editor Andy Mabbett actually wrote an article on the day: The King of Rome, about a famous racing pigeon, the only pigeon to survive a 1000 mile race. The pigeon's skin is preserved in Derby Museum and the bird is also the subject of a folk song, made famous by June Tabor.
At the recent LocalGovCamp unconference in Birmingham, Andy spoke about the GLAMWIki project, the relevance of Wikipedia for Local Government, his challenge to local councils to start articles about themselves, his interest in becoming a GLAM Ambassador or Wikipedian-in-residence (he's since been appointed Wikipedia Outreach Ambassador to ARKive) and a certain dead pigeon.
One of the people who attended the event was Tom Phillips, who later wrote about Andy's session, in, of all places, a related Amazon book review, in which he said:
I'm very emotional about this. The June Tabor version of the song "The King of Rome" made its way onto my personal Desert Island Discs some years ago. I even had it sung for me by [her] as a birthday request at a concert. I got lost in a blizzard back country skiing in the wilds of Norway once and found myself singing this loudly to myself for hours until I found my way home. I think the navigation/homing connection was lost on me at the time. It only dawned later.
Cut to many years later. I am at a conference listening to someone talk about Wikipedia, and how museums can use it to give virtual access to exhibits they have no room to display. His presentation slide was...the Wikipedia page on The King of Rome! And do you know? All that time I'd known and loved the song, it had never dawned on me that it was based on a true story. I must be pretty dull, but the discovery hit me like a brick!
I found this book from a link on the Wikipedia article. I ordered it immediately, sight unseen. And when it arrived, I was captivated. Hans Saefkow's artwork is a bit like that of Raymond Briggs, but the whole thing was just like the video that has been playing in my head all these years. I would love to see this turned into a short piece of animation. It would propel the song and the book right up there where it belongs. If there any copies of this left, buy one at once, and play the movie in your own head. This is lovely, and deserves to be so much better known.
Thank you Dave [Sudbury], Hans [Saefko], Joan [Sic: June Tabor] and Andy [Mabbett]. You have brought me much joy.
We're pleased to say that since April over 40 editors around the world have written or translated nearly 800 articles about objects in Derby Museum - including a dozen translations of The King of Rome - as part of the Wright Challenge. It's still two months until that ends, so we're hoping this pigeon is the first of a thousand.
A new Wikipedia-related project to preserve metadata around Australian indie music. Sumanah (talk) 21:27, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
IndyCar has started to utilize Wikipedia as a way to share it's high quality content and resources related to IndyCar racing. This project was inspired by the work taking place in the GLAMWIKI program and stemmed from meetings with User:LoriLee, Wikipedian in Residence at The Children's Museum of Indianapolis. Let's hope this is a start of a long relationship that involves partnering with WikiProjects, archival research out of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Hall of Fame Museum, content donations, and beyond.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by SarahStierch (talk • contribs)
The Walters Art Museum and Baltimore Heritage are sponsoring a gathering of the Wiki and GLAM minds in Baltimore, Maryland, July 22-23. SarahStierch and Aude are presenting. The weekend launches with the Young Preservationists Happy Hour where Sarah is presenting about GLAMWIKI, and is followed by an afternoon of talks by Sarah and Aude followed by break out sessions with GLAM representatives and Wikimedians. Photos will be taken, a report perhaps can be summarized in the Signpost if there is interest. =)
SarahStierch (talk) 14:53, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
July 29 the Smithsonian Institution Archives of American Art will host 10 Wikimedians for a day of behind the scenes activities and an edit-a-thon. Further details afterwards!
SarahStierch (talk) 15:03, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
See [2], with more info/background at [3]. Mike Peel (talk) 17:27, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
BBC staff have been told: "Don't surreptitiously sanitise Wikipedia pages about the BBC", per http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/8637867/Official-BBC-Twitter-rules-tell-staff-Dont-do-anything-stupid.html which also says "It follows the disclosure that employees had made anonymous edits to a Wikipedia article entitled 'Criticism of the BBC' removing references to an internal report which found the corporation was seen as 'out of touch with large swathes of the population'."
See here. Count Iblis (talk) 23:58, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
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Since I had the old dataset laying around I decide to see what's changed. Note: I had inserted new data into the set until mid-march. — Dispenser 02:52, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
LWN ran a story by Koen Vervloesem about Semantic MediaWiki. It ended:
"Simetrical" responded in a comment:
Couldn't squeeze into this week, but: Imperica Fae interview. Skomorokh 23:40, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
The Wikimedia Foundation is now an official liaison member of the Unicode Consortium.[4][5] Kaldari (talk) 18:43, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Interesting story that seems to have developed on the German Wikipedia (The articel here has been deleted but still exists on simple). A prolific editor on deWiki de:Benutzer:Michael Kühntopf just got banned for publishing wiki-derived books without adhering to the licence - claiming copyright. Agathoclea (talk) 12:08, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
But maybe my list of image suggestions can be mentioned? Bulwersator (talk) 18:20, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6554331
The Signpost just has to jump on this. Feedback from the WMF would be nice too. There's probably something at Wikisource about this too. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 18:02, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Great story, ties in well with the Aaron Schwartz case. Appreciate any further relevant links on this, particularly Wikimedia angles. Skomorokh 14:02, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
See http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110720142009.htm if interested. Jo3sampl (talk) 21:00, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
According to the Daily NK, the Korean Wikipedia is full of North Korean propaganda. Cla68 (talk) 01:11, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Not sure if list announcements can be placed here, but, due to the increasing outreach efforts of North American GLAM-WIKI volunteers, a North American Cultural Partnerships mailing list has been created for those interested in activities in the United States, Mexico, Canada, Greenland and the Caribbean. The new list! SarahStierch (talk) 17:09, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Social search engine Greplin is sponsoring a Search Design Contest for Wikipedia. TechCrunch has a short piece about it here. Gobonobo T C 21:44, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
On August 1, hopefully the next edition of This Month In GLAM will be out at outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/July 2011. Just popping it here in case I forget to add it to N&N. Not that I'd ever forget anything (cough cough). —Tom Morris (talk) 10:48, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
4 Vesta has been filling up with pics since the arrival of the dawn spacecraft. Compare the article pre dawn.©Geni 15:07, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Can I point you in the direction of: Wikipedia:GLAM/NMM - many thanks. :-) The Land (talk) 16:05, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
According to a new study of user privacy and tracking, summarized here (with link to the full study), "Combined, Google has a presence on 97 of the top 100 websites. This includes popular government websites such as usps.com, irs.gov, and nih.gov. Only microsoft.com, ups.com, and wikipedia.org lacked some type of Google cookie." [That's from the full study document itself, not the summary, and is the only mention of Wikipedia.] -- John Broughton (♫♫) 21:17, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Article here: http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/education/wikipedias-shakespeare-problem
(Full disclosure: I'm quoted in the article.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 21:19, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
This:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2011-August/067159.html
Has effectively thrown a grenade into the situation.©Geni 23:35, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:W._V._Grant#Instructions_from_Grant_official_website_._._.
Sincerely,
GeorgeLouis (talk) 21:59, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
I thought I remembered seeing a snippet of a research paper indicating WikiLove is actually counterproductive. I can't find it now, but I'm posting here in case anyone else remembers seeing this in the last week. tedder (talk) 23:35, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
There was an interview done with this tennis player where part of her article was brought up for comment... turns out to have been vandalism. Excerpted from the interview:
The interview can be read at http://www.rogerscup.com/women/2011_interviews/G.Voskoboeva_08.08.11.doc (note: DOC format file at the other end) and also in an HTML version at http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=73342. Tabercil (talk) 23:50, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
A photo of Sue Gardner speaking at the June American Library Association conference graced the cover of the July/August 2011 issue of the association's news magazine, American Libraries. There is also a 1-paragraph summary of her talk in the conference coverage, on p. 50. Libcub (talk) 00:09, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
Fresh off the presses: WikiChix Lunch 2011 SarahStierch (talk) 13:34, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
-- John Broughton (♫♫) 13:10, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
On August 27, 2011, I will be speaking as a wikipedian at the Walter E. Washington Convention Center in conjunction with the August 28 Martin Luther King, Jr. National Memorial dedication ceremonies. The theme of my presentation will be "Life's most persistent and urgent question is, 'What are you doing for others?'"—Martin Luther King, Jr. Does this deserve a mention in WP:POST.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:38, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Haven't seen any news articles, just the press releases, such as this:
but seems worth a mention. Here's the "survival guide":
http://www.ereviewguide.com/news/2011/08/10/how-to-use-wikipedia-more-effectively/
-- John Broughton (♫♫) 21:04, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
-- John Broughton (♫♫) 13:47, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
See this article from The Province, which explains the situation. I also summarized it at Talk:Rick Rypien. Basically, a vandal modified (diff) a Mike Gillis quote about Rick Rypien, in Rypien's Wikipedia article in July.. and at the time of Rypien's death earlier this week, the vandalism hadn't been found, and the Toronto Star published the vandalized quote in their print newspapers. The Toronto Star has since apologized, but Mike Gillis is apparently considering legal action.. I'm not sure if these kinds of incidents normally go in the Signpost, or if there's someone else I should be telling. Mlm42 (talk) 01:17, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
I've been having a look around FAs on other Wikipedias and found hundreds of articles that we don't cover at all. Not sure if a story/short could be written about this but I thought it was quite interesting. violet/riga [talk] 09:47, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
One thing that it's just highlighted for me is the woeful Maritime history of the Netherlands compared to the beautiful Featured Article on nl.wiki. Sure, the Dutch are obviously going to write quite a bit about themselves but surely this is a significant historical topic? violet/riga [talk] 21:29, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
According to NPR, inventor-entrepreneur Meredith Perry has come up with a wireless battery charger called uBeam, which is in the first stages of commercialization. The point that surprised me was - "Perry has no background in electrical engineering. She's self-taught by reading online, mostly Wikipedia." Smallbones (talk) 12:14, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
WP:FOUR recognized its 100th editor and 250th article on August 21 and 24 respectively.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:38, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
What previously seemed unachievable by a mortal wikipedian has been achieved necessitating the renaming of the Ultimate Triple Crown as the Marco Polo Centurion Triple Crown. The new unachievable WP:CROWN level (the level at which one "eats Jimbo Wales for lunch and takes over Wikipedia") is now 250, which is called the Ultimate Triple Crown.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:41, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
-- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:57, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
A user has suggested this might be newsworthy. Has it been covered before? User:Pine is offering to write it up in ITN for next week. Tony (talk) 08:07, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this is of use/interest or not, but Wikimedia UK's offering two full scholarships to enable UK researchers to attend Wikisym this year - see wmuk:WikiSym Scholarships for more info. Mike Peel (talk) 15:06, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
And probably off-point, but I found it curious that there was a fight to delete this article, because it wasn't important, as earthquakes go, while the article was simultaneously being added to the "In the news" section of the Main page. (Basically, confusion over "notability", which is measured by press coverage, versus "importance", which is subjective, and isn't the same thing at all as "notability", as used in Wikipedia policy.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 17:07, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
-- John Broughton (♫♫) 03:45, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm working on some wrapup posts/mail about the Google Summer of Code students. I hope to have it ready this week. It would be neat if a Signpost person interviewed one or two of the students! Sumanah (talk) 19:25, 29 August 2011 (UTC)