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Wikipedia's lead sentence problem

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By Kaldari
Thomas Spencer Baynes, genius or pedant?
Flesch Reading Ease scores for the lead sentence of Christopher Columbus from 2002 to 2016
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Join the RfC in response to this article.A L T E R C A R I   06:59, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Brilliant insight

Sometimes a problem is right in front of you, but you don't notice it until someone else points it out, at which point you see it everywhere. This essay is that sort of eye-opener. --Guy Macon (talk) 22:26, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. thank you Kaldari for bringing this up. --Saqib (talk) 06:24, 12 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Some {{infobox medical condition}} introduced a |pronounce= a while ago, which I think is a good solution. Alternate names/languages could be handled the same way in articles with infoboxes, e.g., as documented at Template:Infobox settlement#Name and transliteration.

Etymology is an endless problem (e.g., in anatomy articles), with some editors wanting it to be the first thing that you read, others wanting it last, and others not wanting it included at all. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:53, 12 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Moving information to infoboxes seems like the right way to go. Inline parentheticals should be limited to what helps disambiguate the subject from plausible alternatives. – SJ + 22:16, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It is key that the first sentence of English Wikipedia be in English as much as possible. Not sure which language pronunciations are written in, but it is not one I can read. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:50, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah it's unfortunate that we waste the most valuable real-estate in the article for information that only 0.01% of readers are both interested in and can understand (don't quote me on that statistic). Kaldari (talk) 20:14, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This is described as a metadata explosion issue. Wasn't Wikidata created as a solution to metadata surfacing issues? Maybe original language pronunciations etc. be toggled by the user, to go fetch them from Wikidata? By the way, I agree that this is a problem for many articles. - Bri (talk) 21:32, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]


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