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This aerial photograph of the Westerheversand Lighthouse took first place among German entries to the 2015 Wiki Loves Monuments contest.
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  • It would be nice, if "we" go to appeal, to present arguments that are watertight and compelling. This, as some of us know to our cost, can be much harder to do if one is too close to the subject. If the case cannot be sufficiently robust, including the grounds for appeal, that it cannot be weakened by a well informed, competent, opponent, then bringing it is counter-productive.
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 16:14, 25 October 2015 (UTC).[reply]
  • Literally speaking, it can't possibly be counter-productive; we already lost. If we appeal, the worst we can get is the status quo. Ironholds (talk) 18:40, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • The headline just posted by Boing Boing sums up the absurdity nicely: "NSA spying: judge tosses out case because Wikipedia isn't widely read enough". It's only the seventh most used website in the entire world. Gamaliel (talk) 16:21, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • Unsurprisingly, that headline isn't accurate to either the article or the facts of the case. The judge in question disputed that the WMF had standing based on the unclear assertion of possible NSA surveillance. While I disagree with the decision (based on Wikipedia's ubiquity) the judge clearly doesn't want challenges to gov't activity and won't allow cases like these without hard proof of a aggrieved party. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:22, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ars Technica has by now noticed that the judge was TS Ellis III, not Bennett. (But they've mis-spelt him. And now RT says, "US District Judge Richard D. Bennett ruled in favor of the National Security Agency (NSA) ...") ... --Andreas JN466 16:34, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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