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What happens when a country is no longer a country?

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By Rcsprinter123

The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there.

We return this week with an interview with a historical project that's still fairly active, WikiProject Former countries, which has a large amount of recognised content and a pretty large remit: countries that existed in history, but no longer exist as political entities. There are certainly a lot of those. Here to divulge their experiences are OwenBlacker and MirkoS18.

What motivated you to join WikiProject Former countries? Do you have an academic or professional background in world history? Have you contributed to WikiProjects covering any other geographical topics?

Have you contributed to any of the project's 44 Featured or 77 Good Articles? What challenges do project members face when improving former countries articles to FA or GA status?

Your front page gives links to WikiProject Historical Atlas and WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology. Is this collaboration still actively maintained, and how does it help the net improvement to your content output as a project?

Coat of arms of Transleithania (1868–1915).

What is your favourite former country?

What are the project's most urgent needs? How can a new contributor help today?

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  • What we call countries, and regard as immutable, are fluid in so many ways. It's great that Wikipedia documents this. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 23:07, 16 July 2015 (UTC).[reply]
  • I didn't even know we had a project of former countries. I gotta keep this in mind, because it could be a valuable resource in another year or two. TomStar81 (Talk) 01:25, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd notice that Wikidata has a lot of similar interesting usecases: how to say in Wikidata using statements that a country (or a type of administrative division and all its divisions) no longer exists ? It happened this year for french cantons (an old divisions that was still used for elections) disapeared ? We can deprecate the statement, or put an end date as a qualifier to the statements, put them as isntance of a class former administrative divisions, and so on. It poses ontological problems wrt. the Wikidata data model and its intended meaning. TomT0m (talk) 10:04, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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