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By Awadewit, Elcobbola, Jbmurray, Kablammo, Moonriddengirl and Tony1
Editor's note: This article was first published in the Signpost in 2009. Written by several long-standing editors, including the late Adrianne Wadewitz, the article was subjected to extensive commentary and ultimately influenced the English Wikipedia's plagiarism guideline. With recent debates about close paraphrasing vis-à-vis plagiarism, we feel that this dispatch retains its relevance and deserves a second airing.
Individuals interested in contributing their own featured content dispatch or opinion article should email the Signpost's editor-in-chief.

Plagiarism, as Wikipedia's article on the topic explains, "is the use or close imitation of the language and ideas of another author and representation of them as one's own original work." At best it is intellectual sloppiness and at worst outright theft.[1] As Robin Levin Penslar notes in Research Ethics: Cases and Materials, "The real penalty for plagiarism is the abhorrence of the community of scholars."[2] It can bring a community into disrepute. Wikipedia's editors should create their own articles, not adopt the work of others. But while this is an easy approach to recommend, plagiarism may not be as simple as it first seems—it is often committed inadvertently. The best way to prevent plagiarism is to understand clearly what it is, how to avoid it, and how to address it when it appears.

Understanding plagiarism

Wikipedia is not a primary source and contains no original research; therefore, everything that appears on Wikipedia should be rooted in a reliable source. The problem with plagiarism is not that it involves the use of other people's ideas, but rather that other people's words or ideas are misrepresented—specifically that they are presented as though they were "an editor's own original work". Even if contributors provide a citation for a sentence, it may still be plagiarism if they do not clearly indicate with quotation marks the duplication of the source's wording. Citations are universally understood as indicating a source for information, not as a license to copy the original wording.

There are three major ways to plagiarize:

  1. Failing to acknowledge the source of quotations and borrowed ideas;
  2. Failing to clearly mark copied language with quotation marks;
  3. Failing to sufficiently adapt a summary or paraphrase and thus following the wording of a source too closely[3]
It is not permitted to pretend the work composed by another person is your own, even if it is "out of copyright" and "in the public domain".

Plagiarism is not the same as copyright infringement: material can be plagiarized from both copyrighted and public domain sources.[4] One report about a plagiarism scandal on Wikipedia claimed that "Wikipedia editors ... declared a handful [of the allegedly plagiarized articles] to be OK because copied passages came from the public domain."[5] If this was indeed the reaction of Wikipedia editors, they were mistaken. To clarify this, think of the famous opening line of Jane Austen's novel Pride and Prejudice (1813): "It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife."[6] The text of this novel, like the text of the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica, is in the public domain. However, these are Austen's words and even though no one owns the copyright to them any longer, we need to acknowledge that the wording is hers. By inserting this sentence without quotation marks into an article, Wikipedia editors would be plagiarizing Austen.[7] Apart from the ethical need to credit her for her words, Wikipedia has a scholarly duty to inform its readers of the source of such a sentence, including the page number where the sentence can be found in the source.

Wikipedia policies say much about copyright violation, but far less about plagiarism. The guideline on the topic was written in 2008. Wikipedia's co-founder Jimmy Wales took a clear stand on the issue in 2005: "Let me say quite firmly that for me, the legal issues [surrounding plagiarism] are important, but far far far more important are the moral issues. We want to be able, all of us, to point at Wikipedia and say: we made it ourselves, fair and square."[8]

What to cite: the "common knowledge" exception

Not every fact contained in a Wikipedia article requires attribution. When a fact is "common knowledge"—that is, generally known—it is not plagiarism to repeat it, even if contributors learned it from a specific reference. For example, it is commonly known that Emily Dickinson published very few poems during her lifetime.[9] Generally, if information is mentioned in many sources, especially general reference sources, and easily found, it is considered common knowledge. It is also acceptable to reproduce non-creative lists of basic information, such as an alphabetical directory of actors appearing in a film. While Wikipedia's verifiability policy encourages the citing of such information, a failure to do so is not plagiarism.

Although common knowledge and non-creative lists of basic facts do not "belong" to a source and do not require attribution to avoid plagiarism, less commonly known information, opinions and creative text do. Likewise, the creative presentation even of common knowledge, belongs to its original author. Contributors can safely re-use the fact, but not the language unless it is a title, as for a job or a creative work, or utterly devoid of creativity, such as a common phrase. From a copyright standpoint, the level of creativity required to claim ownership is minimal. The United States Supreme Court has indicated that under US copyright law, which governs copyright matters on Wikipedia, "[t]he vast majority of works make the grade quite easily, as they possess some creative spark, 'no matter how crude, humble or obvious' it might be."[10] Similarly, most text will be creative enough that its replication will be plagiarism. Accordingly, while text such as "Dickinson was born on December 10, 1830" can be copied without quotation marks, care must be taken not to rely too much on the presumption that text is not creative. Further, one cannot copy an entire source in this way, claiming that it is "common knowledge" or uncreative text. In such cases, it can come down to the length of a string of exactly copied words; good editors get a feel for where it's starting to be dishonest not to attribute.

Less commonly known facts or interpretations of facts must be cited to avoid plagiarism, and creative text must either be quoted or properly revised.

Avoiding plagiarism

To construct articles that read smoothly while still remaining faithful to their sources, it is essential to learn how to properly use other people's ideas and words. Wikipedia contributors need to know when to give credit, how to adapt source material so that it can be used in an article, and when to use quotations.

Quotation

"Until the beginning of the 18th century, quotation marks were used in England only to call attention to sententious remarks."[11]

When editors want to use verbatim excerpts of a source, there is one simple way to avoid plagiarism: use direct quotations. The words from the source should be reproduced exactly as they appear in the original, enclosed within quotation marks, and identified by an inline citation after the quotation. However, direct quotations should not be overused. They run the risk of copyright infringement if the sources used are not free. Wikipedia's non-free content guidelines offer some guidance on when to use direct quotations and remind us that the "[e]xtensive quotation of copyrighted text is prohibited." But even when free sources are used, the overuse of direct quotation produces articles that are simply collections of quotations. The risk is a fragmentary effect in which the broader context of the quoted material is unclear, and readers are left to piece together the information, which often involves shifts in writing style.

Quotations should generally be used in the following situations:

Adapting sources: paraphrasing and summarizing

Source text is usually adapted using a combination of paraphrase and summary. These two styles generally differ in their level of detail. A summary is more likely to be used for longer expanses of text and to cover only the major points in a passage, omitting or touching lightly on examples or definitions; a summary is generally expected to be considerably shorter than the original source. By contrast, paraphrasing is more likely to be closer to the original and may be nearly as long as or even longer than the source.

Adapting source text, whether by paraphrasing or summarizing, is a valuable skill, and contributors to Wikipedia need to be alert to the potential for inadvertent plagiarism. Many editors believe that by changing a few words here or there—or even by changing a great number of the words found in the original source—they have avoided plagiarism. This is not necessarily the case. Nor does the mere rearrangement of clauses, sentences, or paragraphs avoid the problem.

Problems in paraphrasing

In this example, Wikipedia's article text is an attempt at paraphrasing the source. However, almost all of the original word choice, word order and sentence structure is retained.

Source

"A statement from the receiver, David Carson of Deloitte, confirmed that 480 of the 670 employees have been made redundant ... At least 100 Waterford Crystal employees are refusing to leave the visitors' gallery at the factory tonight and are staging an unofficial sit-in. The employees say they will not be leaving until they meet with Mr Carson. There were some scuffles at one point and a main door to the visitors' centre was damaged ... Local Sinn Féin Councillor Joe Kelly, who is one of those currently occupying the visitors' gallery, said the receiver had told staff he would not close the company while there were interested investors."

Wikipedia article:

"A statement issued by the receiver, Deloitte's David Carson, confirmed that, of the 670 employees, 480 of them would be laid off. The workers responded angrily to this unexpected decision and at least 100 of them began an unofficial sit-in in the visitors' gallery at the factory that night. They insisted they would refuse to leave until they had met with Carson. Following the revelations, there was a minor scuffle during which the main door to the visitors' centre was damaged. Local Sinn Féin Councillor Joe Kelly was amongst those who occupied the visitors' gallery."

Analysis:

Good adaptation practice

In terms of both plagiarism and copyright, the author of a text not only "owns" the precise, creative language he or she uses, but less tangible creative features of presentation, which may incorporate the structure of the piece and the choice of facts. In terms of plagiarism, but not copyright, the author also "owns" the facts or his or her interpretation of them, unless these are, as mentioned above, common knowledge. Revising to avoid plagiarism means completely restructuring a source in word choice and arrangement while giving due credit for the ideas and information taken from it.

In this paraphrase, the language and structure of the passage has been significantly altered, making it an original expression of the ideas. The ideas have, of course, been properly credited.

Source:

"In earlier times, surveillance was limited to the information that a supervisor could observe and record firsthand and to primitive counting devices. In the computer age surveillance can be instantaneous, unblinking, cheap, and, maybe most importantly, easy." — From Carol Botan and Mihaela Vorvoreanu, "What do Employees Think about Electronic Surveillance at Work"? p.  126[13]

Paraphrase:

"Scholars Carl Botan and Mihaela Vorvoreanu claim that the nature of workplace surveillance has changed over time. Before the arrival of computers, managers could collect only small amounts of information about their employees based on what they saw or heard. However, because computers are now standard workplace technology, employers can monitor employees efficiently (126)."[13]

This adaptation, from the featured article about Thomas Eakins' The Swimming Hole, displays attribution of opinion and uses a combination of paraphrase and quotation:

The Swimming Hole represented the full range of Eakins' techniques and academic principles. He used life study, photography, wax studies, and landscape sketches to produce a work that manifested his interest in the human form.[14] Lloyd Goodrich (1897–1987) believed the work was "Eakins's most masterful use of the nude", with the solidly conceived figures perfectly integrated into the landscape, an image of subtle tonal construction and one of the artist's "richest pieces of painting".[15] Another biographer, William Innes Homer (b. 1929), was more reserved and described the poses of the figures as rigidly academic. Homer found inconsistencies in paint quality and atmospheric effect, and wrote that the painting was unsuccessful in reconciling antique and naturalistic ideals. For him, "it is as though these nudes had been abruptly transplanted from the studio into nature".[16]

Unfortunately, there is no hard and fast rule for how much revision is necessary to avoid plagiarizing. In evaluating copyright concerns, the United States courts adopt a "substantial similarity" test that compares the pattern and sequence of two works, finding such similarity where "the ordinary observer [reading two works], unless he set out to detect the disparities, would be disposed to overlook them, and regard their aesthetic appeal as the same."[17] Even if all of the language is revised, a court may find copyright infringement under the doctrine of "comprehensive non-literal similarity" if "the pattern or sequence of the two works is similar".[18] Likewise, plagiarism may exist if readers comparing the two works would come away with a sense that one is copied from or too heavily based on another.

Editors should always compare their final drafts with the sources they have used to make sure that they have not accidentally come too close in language and structure or failed to attribute when necessary.

Research and writing methods: tips for avoiding plagiarism

It is best to organize your sources either electronically or with a paper filing system.

One way editors can minimize the tendency to reuse text is to not copy and paste text into their working drafts. Instead, editors should assemble and organize their notes, excerpts, and other source materials by topic. This can be done either in hard copy or by using an electronic filing system. Editors should then read and absorb what the sources say and proceed to writing a draft version, in their own words, of each topic. These drafts can be assembled according to the editor's own organizational schema. There are a number of ways to organize material; editors should not slavishly follow a source's structure, either in overall organization, or in the composition and arrangement of sentences and paragraphs within each section. This method reduces the temptation (and makes it harder) to adopt verbatim language and organization from the sources.

At the same time, when taking notes from a source for their own use, editors may find it useful to take them verbatim, with quotation marks, if they will not have access to that source as they are writing their final draft. If a different language is used in note-taking, an editor may find him or herself accidentally restoring some of the author's original words when constructing a draft. Being able to see at a glance exactly how the source was written can help avoid this.

Use multiple sources, if possible. Editors may find it more difficult to avoid following that text too closely if they rely on only one source, as they will necessarily be limited to those details selected by the author of that original source. It is not impossible to revise and reorganize a single source sufficiently to avoid plagiarism or copyright infringement, but it is more difficult.

Spotting plagiarism

Editors should be careful not to add plagiarized material to Wikipedia, and can help to protect the integrity of the project by spotting plagiarism and helping to correct it. When large sections of a source are copied word-for-word into an article, it is often easy to spot and repair. The use of ideas or uncommon facts without credit, possibly the most common form of plagiarism, can be repaired by sourcing. Detecting and dealing with subtler forms of plagiarism may be more challenging, but is usually possible.

Red flags for plagiarism include:

If you suspect plagiarism, you may wish to start by checking the article's history. If the article has a multi-authored feel but appears to be largely single-authored, there could be reason for concern, as this may suggest a contributor has borrowed too heavily from the diction of multiple sources. It may be worth checking the contribution history of an editor across a number of articles, to see if there is a discernible authorial voice or if there is a pattern of such inconsistency. There may be a history of such issues on the editor's talk page.

Another good starting point is to review the article's sources. Particularly when plagiarism results from misunderstanding—rather than intent to deceive—a contributor may clearly identify the sources from which s/he has plagiarized, and even link to them. If the source is in another language, for instance, the contributor may be under the mistaken belief that the act of translation is a sufficient revision to eliminate concerns of plagiarism. On the contrary, whether or not the work is free, the obligation remains to give credit to authors of foreign language texts for their creative expression, information and ideas, and, if the work is unfree, direct translation is likely to be a copyright violation as well.[19][20] Concerned readers can also use search engines and automated plagiarism detection. When searching manually, it is helpful to isolate small sections of text from an article. However, some results found this way may be from mirrors and forks of Wikipedia itself, particularly if the article is not newly created.

Addressing plagiarism

There are templates such as {{Copypaste}} or {{Close paraphrase}} that are added to the top of a suspect section or article and may draw attention to the problem; concerns might be noted at an appropriate WikiProject or forum. Just as Wikipedia currently has no clear guideline or policy on plagiarism, it has no clear forum for addressing plagiarism concerns. However, Wikipedia:WikiProject Copyright Cleanup stands to assist where plagiarism may co-exist with copyright infringement, and, even where it doesn't, project members may be able to assist with plagiarism.

If an article seems to follow the language and structure of another work too closely, first consider whether it is a matter of copyright infringement or plagiarism. If the source is not free and the text may represent a legal concern for Wikipedia, follow the procedures set out at Wikipedia's copyright violations policy. If the source is free, steps should be taken to remedy plagiarism. Wikipedia's proposed guideline on plagiarism suggests politely discussing concerns with the contributor. Further steps may need to be taken to address contributors who persist in plagiarism after being made aware of the problem, through Requests for comment or—if the contributor proves disruptive—through a report at the administrator's incidents noticeboard. The plagiarism will also need to be repaired as soon as possible. If it can be attributed, revised or turned into a usable quotation, it should be. If the editor who discovers the problem is unable to repair it or uncertain of how it should be addressed, it should be brought to the attention of other contributors.

As the main page says, Wikipedia is "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit". Anyone can, and should, repair plagiarism.

Notes

  1. ^ Leight, David (1999). "Plagiarism as metaphor". In Buranen, Lise; Roy, Alice Myers (eds.). Perspectives on Plagiarism and Intellectual Property in a Postmodern World. Buffalo: SUNY Press. p. 221. ISBN 0791440796.
  2. ^ Penslar, Robin Levin (1995). Research ethics: cases and materials. Bloomington: Indiana University Press. p. 148. ISBN 0253209064.
  3. ^ Hacker, Diana. A Pocket Style Manual (5 ed.). Boston: Bedford/St. Martin's. p. 107. ISBN 0312559933.
  4. ^ Fishman, Stephen (2008). Public domain: how to find & use copyright-free writings, music, art & more (4th, illustrated revised ed.). Nolo. p. 35. ISBN 1413308589. To avoid charges of plagiarism, authors of scholarly works ... always give proper credit to the sources of their ideas and facts, as well as any words they borrow. This is so even if the work borrowed from is in the public domain.
  5. ^ Jesdanun, Anick (4 November 2006). "Wikipedia Critic Finds Copied Passages". The Sydney Morning Herald. Associated Press. Retrieved 6 April 2009.
  6. ^ Austen, Jane (1914) [First published 1813]. Pride and Prejudice. Chicago: Charles Scribner's Sons. p. 1. Retrieved 18 March 2009.
  7. ^ The requirement for the use of quotation marks on Wikipedia to delineate duplicated public domain text, where attribution is obvious, is disputed. See Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches.
  8. ^ Wales, Jimmy (28 December 2005). "Comment". Wikipedia. Retrieved 31 March 2009.
  9. ^ Hacker offers this as an example of common knowledge (p. 107).
  10. ^ Feist Publications v. Rural Telephone Service, 499 U.S. 340 (United States Supreme Court, 1991).
  11. ^ Truss, Lynne (2004). Eats, Shoots & Leaves: The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation. New York: Gotham. pp. 151–52. ISBN 1592400876.
  12. ^ a b c d e Hacker, p. 110.
  13. ^ a b Hacker, p. 109.
  14. ^ Sewell, Darrel; Kathleen A. Foster; Philadelphia Museum of Art; Musée d'Orsay; Metropolitan Museum of Art (2001). Thomas Eakins. New Haven: Yale University Press. p. 100. ISBN 0300091117.
  15. ^ Goodrich, Lloyd (1982). Thomas Eakins, Volume I. Cambridge: Harvard University Press. pp. 239–40. ISBN 0674884906.
  16. ^ Homer, William Innes (1992). Thomas Eakins: His Life and Work. New York: Abbeville. p. 116. ISBN 1-55859-281-4.
  17. ^ Peter Pan Fabrics, Inc. v. Martin Weiner Corp., 274 F.2d 487, 489 (2d Cir., 1960).
  18. ^ Arica v. Palmer, 970 F.2d 106 (2d Cir., 1992).
  19. ^ United States Copyright Office. "Copyright Law of the United States of America and Related Laws Contained in Title 17 of the United States Code, Circular 92". Retrieved 2009-04-09. A "derivative work" is a work based upon one or more preexisting works, such as a translation, musical arrangement, dramatization, fictionalization, motion picture version, sound recording, art reproduction, abridgment, condensation, or any other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted.... Subject to sections 107 through 122, the owner of copyright under this title has the exclusive rights to do and to authorize any of the following:...(2) to prepare derivative works based upon the copyrighted work....
  20. ^ Buranen, Lise; Alice Myers Roy (1999). Perspectives on Plagiarism and Intellectual Property in a Postmodern World. SUNY Press. p. 76. ISBN 0791440796. ... large-scale cribbing of foreign-language texts might occur during the process of translation.... The practice persists even though the most flagrant violators are eventually accused and dismissed from their posts.
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  • In almost all of the articles where some or all of the text is taken from the 1911 Brittanica or similar old sources sources, or public domain US government material, there is only a general attribution, usually given by the template {{EB1911}} or the like. It is almost never indicated in the article just what portions of the text were taken. In some cases it can be figured out from the edit history, in all cases it could be determined from the original, but there seems to be no specific policy requiring this to be done, whether for the many such contributions in earlier years or the continuing use nowadays mostly from PD-USgov (this is currently most prevalent in military biographies) I have on occasion posted to people adding such material asking they do so, and I have never gotten a response that indicates that they acknowledge the need for it. I suggest we add a specific statement, and enforce it. As for dealing with the present material, it's time for a cleanup. Presumably someone could do a bot, but it could even be done manually, though I'm not prepared to do that single-handed--and not until the inflow of new such material has been stopped. DGG ( talk ) 21:19, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • I agree that it is time to cease use of these general attribution templates. There likely are hundreds of articles which are verbatim transcriptions of DANFS ship histories. These histories are generally competent but often are written in a breezy style and not from a neutral viewpoint. EB1911 articles can be very well-written but opinionated. (Cf. John Byng with its 1911 EB source; some of the latter is still present in our article.) It is difficult to tell who wrote what. Wikipedia should have progressed beyond copying PD sources, which preserves the flaws of the source and often is then bowdlerized by later edits. This is not a criticism of those who created the articles, as that practice was commonly accepted. But it is a practice we no longer need, and from what I have seen, at least some of the editors who used that practice are very capable of writing well-researched and well-written articles, equal or superior to a PD source. Kablammo (talk) 17:23, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • What is the policy on using closely paraphrased excerpts from peer reviewed journal article abstracts? I see very experienced editors doing that all the time, and given that abstracts are published for indexing, I'm not sure if there is anything technically or morally wrong with it, especially when the citation has a link back to where someone can download -- or buy -- the source article. I know I'd be pretty pissed off if I saw anti-copyvio reverts of that sort of thing. (I'm logging out so my contribs won't be given any extra scrutiny by potential copyright paranoiacs, even though I almost always use inline phrase or single-sentence quotes for that sort of thing.) 173.197.107.11 (talk) 21:33, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • In my mind, it's plagiarism, even if you're linking back to the original source. Wikipedia's slightly more lenient, but the guidelines clearly note that summarizing material in your own words is preferred. Does it really take that much longer to rewrite the passage? Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 22:43, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I guess that depends on how much spare time is available. 173.197.107.11 (talk) 03:59, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If the source is copyrighted (and abstracts likely are; see, for example - "NLM data licensees and others contemplating any type of transmission or reproduction of copyrighted material such as abstracts...."), you should put verbatim taking into quotation marks but otherwise put the material in your own words and structure in accordance with WP:C. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:00, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Is that analysis informed by or oblivious to fair use considerations? I would hope that reasonable editors go after lengthy copyvio passages before they start making judgement calls about how close is too close a paraphrase for abstract text. 173.197.107.11 (talk) 17:58, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I assume informed by, as what's the fair use rationale for text? Images like logos are clear unreplaceable, but undistinctive text can nearly always be rewarded ("undistinctive" because there are places for quotes from primary sources, etc.) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 19:03, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Pretty much. :) Your question was about policy - policy is at WP:C and WP:NFCC. Wikipedia is deliberately narrow in application of fair use for a number of reasons, including that content on Wikipedia is meant to be reusable by anyone, anywhere, in any context. What passes for fair use in one country in one situation may not be acceptable in another. By clearly marking quotations, we offer reusers the opportunity to assess whether what we believe is "fair use" works for them. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:58, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The issue of whether the image caption is part of the image has also come up. I'd appreciate your opinion on that. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:53, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Can you elaborate, Hawkeye7? I don't really understand the question. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 10:10, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
When uploading an image, should one upload the original caption as well? Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:23, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't do much with images, Hawkeye7, so I've never put any thought into this at all, but I'm not sure how that applies? I mean, plagiarism doesn't require keeping intact all of the text you use - it just requires properly attributing what you do use. It's quite possible I still don't take your meaning, here. :) Can you give an example of when separating a caption from an image has been questioned plagiarism? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:23, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speaking of Intellectual sloppiness, the first footnote points to the first page of the article being cited. (A common way of citing a journal or book article in some academic circles.) The actual material being summarised is on pp. 226–227 (I think), although the term "outright theft" appears on p. 211 in another essay. In neither case is plagiarism equated with theft in the legal sense. This neatly illustrates the danger of paraphrase: unless you really understand what it being said, you run the risk of getting it wrong. That is of course the whole reason for asking the undergraduates to paraphrase; but on Wikipedia it means that secondary sources cannot be paraphrased without double-checking. Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:05, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • How does this apply to copying/merging/splitting Wikipedia articles? Whilst okay with regard to copyright due to CC-BY-SA licencing, there is no quotation marks around the copied material, and no in-text acknowledgement of the source copied from. It seems like most cases of merging, splitting, or other copying is actually plagiarism. - Evad37 [talk] 03:06, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Interesting question. I think in the case of Wikipedia, we treat it more as a collective work, Evad, than as a work of individual authorship. However, even if we did treat it as individual authorship, I think that the plagiarism concerns are somewhat addressed by the "history" tab, which allows people to trace word for word who wrote what. While in merged content, you do have to look at the history of another page, it's very much of the record. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:50, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Moonriddengirl: Re collective work/individual authorship: It seems strange to treat Wikipedia as a collective work for plagiarism purposes, but as individual works for copyright purposes, where each article (or other page) has distinct authors who retain their copyright. It also doesn't address transwiki-ing, e.g. what if we were to decide that voy:Low-cost airlines (or any article on another WMF wiki) would also make a good encyclopedia article, or a new section of an existing article, and copy it over here? Assuming we do it properly, we would have satisfied the terms of the licencing for reuse, but not the plagiarism rules (copying verbatim without quotation marks and in-text attribution).
Re history tab: If this method of attribution isn't acceptable for public domain or freely/compatibly licensed external works, why is it acceptable for copying within Wikipedia or between WMF projects? Or to put it the other way, if this method is acceptable for copying within Wikipedia or between WMF projects, why isn't it acceptable for public domain or freely/compatibly licensed external works? - Evad37 [talk] 02:57, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think our handling is different there. Authors do retain copyright, and the history of the page is sufficient for that attribution. We explicitly waived our right to be attributed by name when we agreed that a hyperlink was sufficient, every time we hit "save page". Why would we expect to be treated differently for plagiarism purposes? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 10:10, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
So are you saying that plagarism doesn't occur if the terms of the CC-BY-SA licence are complied with? - Evad37 [talk] 00:10, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No, I'm saying I believe those of us who contribute to these projects do so under a different understanding. We do so with the full knowledge that our names are not attached in a highly visible way to our work. It's not to do with the license, but with our general expectations on contribution. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:19, 7 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think that there is a fundamental contradiction in Wikipedia's policies, between: (1) no original research and reliable sourcing; and (2) no plagiarism and no copyright violations. You keep trying to straddle the line so that no one can say that you are clearly violating one policy rather than the other. JRSpriggs (talk) 17:58, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd agree that it is a challenge particularly for those who have trouble paraphrasing, but it is possible, including by the judicious use of quotations. I don't think it's a contradiction as it is attainable. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:58, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]



       

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