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Proposal to create admin conduct noticeboard

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A proposal was made on February 9 by Timeshifter to create a new noticeboard to report and sanction rude and abusive administrators. The noticeboard would differ from current noticeboards, such as the administrators' noticeboard for incidents (ANI), where administrators are alleged to defend each other when claims of misconduct arise. Prior discussions which identified abusive admins as a contributing factor in the declining number of active editors on Wikipedia were cited in support of the proposal.

The proposal began with much interaction between the proposer and another editor, after which other members of the community joined the discussion. At the time of writing there was no apparent consensus on setting up the proposed noticeboard. Supporters of the new noticeboard argued that ANI is ineffective and cannot deal with complaints about actions by admins, but their arguments were half-hearted, with doubts expressed as to whether the new noticeboard would ever be implemented. Those opposing the noticeboard argued that ANI, Wikiquette assistance, and the Arbitration Committee are sufficient to deal with admin-related complaints.

It is interesting to note that on February 7, a separate, unconnected discussion regarding deletions done by one administrator was opened by TonyTheTiger (as covered briefly in the last edition). The deletions of the administrator under scrutiny, Fastily, have been discussed at length by members of the community, although the result of said discussions has yet to be determined.

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  • Comment. Concerning the proposal to create an admin conduct noticeboard. I don't see how any objective reader of that long Village Pump discussion over more than 2 weeks can not see that there are many people who believe that there is a significant problem with unchecked admin misconduct. Even if they are all wrong, a separate admin misconduct noticeboard would go a long way towards addressing the appearance of admin impunity and lack of accountability. I could spend the next few years having individual cases looked at by other admins through many admin talk pages, WP:ANI, etc.. But all that accumulated record of admin stuff would not be in one archive on a separate admin misconduct noticeboard. A total waste of a great record and resource. It would soon become clear that there are other problems too, such as some vague guidelines that invite abuse. So a record of that abuse in a single archive would be necessary to clearly illustrate which guidelines are the most vague, and causing the most problems. For more info see: User:Timeshifter/Unchecked admin misconduct --Timeshifter (talk) 20:09, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]



       

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