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By Wackywace, Guoguo12, Lumos3, Tilman Bayer and Shoy

Wikileaks fallout continues

Last week, the ongoing United States diplomatic cables leak by WikiLeaks continued to have side effects on Wikipedia – as in the cases reported in the last Signpost issue (Repercussions of the WikiLeaks cable leak).

On December 9, the Wikimedia Foundation addressed the widespread confusion between Wikipedia and Wikileaks in a statement on its official blog, adding to earlier statements by Jimmy Wales, Sue Gardner, and Jay Walsh in the media.

French president Nicolas Sarkozy condemned Wikipedia's "irresponsibility" during a November 30 meeting of the Council of Ministers, confusing it with WikiLeaks, as reported by Le Canard enchaîné (English summary). In a video published last week, a "reporter" asked eight members of the Assemblée nationale: "Do you, like Nicolas Sarkozy, condemn the responsibility of Wikipedia?", revealing similar confusion in some of them (UMP deputy Michel Voisin replied "Absolutely, yes!").

According to CNN, the judge in a media-overwhelmed hearing at London's Westminster Magistrates Court on December 7 about the arrest of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange once confused WikiLeaks and Wikipedia, too, "setting off a few snickers from reporters".

Dutch newspaper NRC Handelsblad even managed to put Wikipedia in the headline of a December 9 article about some of the WikiLeaks cables (since corrected).

According to Media Matters, a comment by right-wing US radio host Michael Savage "weaves Wikipedia, Wikileaks, and the Bilderberg group into one bunk conspiracy theory". Savage said:

"Of course there's only one story, and that is the story of the subversion, the terrorism of the Wikileaks and Wikipedia folks. Now, I say that because I believe there is a link between the two, although I cannot prove it, nor am I making such an allegation. I believe that both organizations should be investigated to the full extent of the law."

Similar to the case of Glenn Beck, summarized in last week's Signpost, Media Matters explained that Savage "ignored the fact that the MediaWiki software both WikiLeaks and Wikipedia use is free and available to anyone who wants it".

Wikipedian Witty lama reported having been "grilled" by Australian immigration authorities about the relation between Wikipedia and WikiLeaks.

According to JzG[1], the Volunteer Response Team was getting "maybe a few tens of emails about this per day" last week. At the time of writing, it was still being debated whether a clarifying remark should be put into the Sitenotice (which displays on every Wikipedia page).

Domain names

On December 7, the BBC quoted Wales as saying that "We try to tell people we have nothing to do with Wikileaks everyday", and with statements about the fact that some Wikileaks domain names are still registered to Wales' company Wikia: Similar to his earlier explanations of the issue (cf. WP:WIKILEAKS), Wales stated that "When Wikileaks first started they issued a press release describing themselves as 'the Wikipedia of secrets'" and to protect the name, several domains were registered by Wikia, "which were sold to Wikileaks a few years later". But according to Wales, Wikileaks never completed the transfer, even though "we've been bugging them to do it since they hit the news". In a response on his Wikipedia user talk page on the next day, Wales added that at the time of WikiLeaks' launch "we had no idea who they were, whether it was a scam or spam or who knows what, so some domain names were registered defensively. We contacted them immediately to see what was going on and they apologized for being careless with the Wikipedia name and everything was sorted right away with no problems... except for them actually concluding the technical aspects of the transfer". Also on December 8, The Guardian erroneously claimed that "the domain name wikileaks.com is owned by Wikipedia", a statement that was updated soon by a correction from Wikimedia spokesperson Jay Walsh, and a quote from the BBC article. Despite the stalled transfer, the actual WikiLeaks site had been accessible through the Wikia-owned domains earlier, without Wikia actually serving the content, as explained by Wales in October: "The CNAME records in DNS direct the traffic to www.wikileaks.org". However, as observed by "Elliot's blog", the content of Wikileaks.com recently changed to a GoDaddy parking page[2] and then to a "not available" message[3].

List deletion debate covered

The technology blog ReadWriteWeb discussed the deletion of a Wikipedia page listing WikiLeaks mirror sites,[4] giving both sides of the argument and mentioning the policy that "Wikipedia is not a mirror or repository of links." It cited Wikimedia spokesperson Moka Pantages, who explained the deletion by comparing it to a recent, similar one of the "List of active drive-in theaters": "People editing Wikipedia have nothing against drive-in theaters, of course, it's just that lists like these don't belong on Wikipedia." The RWW article was linked on Twitter by both WikiLeaks[5] and an account associated with Operation Payback.[6] The deletion was also covered by Spanish news agency EFE[7] and the blog Erictric[8].

Britannica vs. Wikipedia race to India?

An article titled "Britannica to give Wikipedia a run for its money" in the Indian newspaper Business Standard has reported that 10 million subscribers to the broadband provider Airtel will be offered free access for up to two years to the online version of Encyclopaedia Britannica. In addition, Britannica currently "has access to about 3,000 schools and plans to expand to about 15,000 schools over the next three years." However, the company's president Jorge Cauz said that it has no plans in the near future to target the country's almost 700 million mobile phone users specifically. (Mani Pande, Senior Research Analyst in the Wikimedia Foundation's Global Development department, recently prepared a mobile forecast for India on the Foundation's Strategic Planning wiki which concluded that "it is important for Wikimedia to develop and support mobile versions of English and Indic language Wikipedia sites".)

In related news, MiD DAY published a short Q&A with the Foundation's Deputy Director Erik Möller, who is currently in India on "a fact-finding trip where the goal is to help the local community grow" with Chief Technical Officer Danese Cooper ("Loads of potential in India: Wikipedia"). They are attending Wikipedia meetups in Mumbai, Pune (with a separate tech meetup involving a Red Hat i18n team) and Bangalore. Möller is to give a talk[9] at Symbiosis International University in Pune, and Cooper will give a keynote, "The technology of Wikipedia", at the FOSS.IN conference in Bangalore. The location of the Foundation's planned India office has not yet been decided.

Briefly

References

  1. ^ [1]
  2. ^ Who Makes Money from WikiLeaks? | Elliot's Blog
  3. ^ Update: WikiLeaks.org Not Online, Neither is WikiLeaks.com | Elliot's Blog
  4. ^ Wikipedia Editors Delete Article Listing WikiLeaks Mirror Sites
  5. ^ [2]
  6. ^ [3]
  7. ^ epa - european pressphoto agency: WikiLeaks dice que Wikipedia ha borrado de su página el listado de clones
  8. ^ Wikipedia Editors Remove ‘List of WikiLeaks Mirrors’ Article
  9. ^ Erik Moeller (eloquence)'s status on Sunday, 12-Dec-10 16:21:05 UTC - Identi.ca
  10. ^ Who’s Been Messing with Terry Moran’s Wikipedia Page? - TVNewser
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Since all the trouble, is there a possibility that the U.S. government willl block Wikipedia and other related sites? (Wikinews, Wikimedia, Wikitionary, etc.) Nascar1996 02:05, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I seriously hope that question was in jest. Xenon54 (talk) 02:33, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Do not hold your breath. The FCC will discuss on December 20 or December 21 about Net Neutrality. This along with Wikilinks is the greatest threat to the site. I have been raising this issue of censorship that is now coming from an external level since 2007 if not earlier. It is time we go full out on all of the talk radio and othr media sites though I fear it may too little too late. Chris (talk) 03:10, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Seriously? The US government could not feasibly block Wikimedia projects because of Wikileaks; we are completely unrelated, and I imagine the people within Washington who deal with this know that as a fact. More importantly, I think there would be outrage in the US media if Wikipedia was blocked; as one of the most visited sites in the world we are one of the most valuable sources of information online. Certainly if Wikipedia is blocked I would be incredibly shocked. wackywace 07:33, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Given who is this government right now, most notably Cass Sunstein, don't hold your breath. Remember the First Amendment. Chris (talk) 16:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your response is unclear, Chris, for two reasons: (1) I don't know what threat from the US government you mean (the Wikipedia article on Sunstein doesn't provide the needed information to explain your point), & (2) your first sentence doesn't quite make sense; I assume you left out a word or two. -- llywrch (talk) 17:34, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
llywrch, the missing information one needs to know is that Sunstein has become somewhat personally demonized to the-Feds-are-coming! crowd, because he's written some wrongheaded (IMHO) punditry about negative effects of the Internet and free speech. So to some people, his name is another word for guvmint-about-to-censor-us. I wouldn't worry about it, but then, they didn't ask me. -- Seth Finkelstein (talk) 14:59, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One of the rites of initiation of WMF staff traveling to India is to have to deal with the somewhat dysfunctional Indian media landscape. I didn't give any interviews (indeed we're explicitly declining interviews during this trip and handing people press packages instead if they are interested), but I must have had a conversation with a journalist who didn't clearly self-identify, and who cobbled together some half-understood sentence fragments into the MiD Day story. The result includes the hilarious misunderstanding re: "staff working round-the-clock keeping track of all facts". Fortunately the story is benign and benevolent, but it's bizarre to have words put in your mouth like that.--Eloquence* 18:35, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"If something is edited to the main copy, we review each and every detail." - you're right, that's absolutely hilarious. -- Seth Finkelstein (talk) 15:13, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]



       

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